Suthep targets Shinawatra clan

Rally leader Suthep Thaugsuban on Tuesday night announced that Shinawatra family members would become the next targets of the anti-government protesters.

The protest escalation came after caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra shrugged off the ultimatum by the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) led by Mr Suthep that demanded she and her government step down from their caretaker role in 24 hours, or by 10.30pm last night, to pave the way for the appointment of an interim prime minister and the setting up of a "people's council" under Section 3 of the constitution.

The government rejected the demand, saying Section 3 does not allow any group of people to exercise the sovereign power of the people. The King shall exercise such power through parliament, the cabinet and the courts, it said.

In his speech to the protesters, Mr Suthep said since Ms Yingluck had ignored the PDRC's "order", the committee had therefore issued an "additional order" that protesters demonstrate peacefully against Shinawatra family members and cabinet members.

Police are also ordered by the PDRC to take legal action against Ms Yingluck and her cabinet on charges of insurrection, he said.

"The PDRC orders police officers to return to their normal duties," Mr Suthep said, setting them a 12-hour deadline to comply.

"The military is asked to deploy for security purpose at state offices instead," he said.

In an earlier speech, Mr Suthep said when the prime minister steps down, he would ask protesters to go home.

"Just wait for another three days. If this is not finished, people in the Shinawatra family won't find any happiness in their lives," he said.

According to Mr Suthep, the Shinawatra family should expect to be treated with contempt by people nationwide.

"If the prime minister doesn't want to be hated any more, do as we recommend," he said.

Mr Suthep again insisted the Yingluck administration had lost its legitimacy to stay in power since it had rejected the Constitution Court's ruling on the charter amendment to make the Senate a fully elected body.

"Various actions of this government led by Ms Yingluck intentionally violated the constitution. As a result, this government is illegitimate," he told protesters at the rally site in front of Government House.

He said the Yingluck administration could not even assume the role of a caretaker government.

"As a result the country is in a vacuum, making it possible to invoke Section 7 of the charter to establish an interim government to pursue national reforms."

Mr Suthep also criticised Ms Yingluck for her announcement of a House dissolution before it was royally endorsed.

He said such an act was considered offensive to the monarchy.

The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) on Tuesday called on the people to rise up against the PDRC, saying the group had committed brazen undemocratic acts.

The group said Mr Suthep was violating the charter and offending royal authority when he rejected the House dissolution and the calling of an election.

The UDD said that the Election Commission had the responsibility to organise the general election or it would risk violence and a possible civil war.

Early in the day, Ms Yingluck appeared on the verge of tears during a press conference at the Army Club and insisted she would not step down as caretaker prime minister until a new cabinet has been formed.

"I have retreated so far and I don't know where to retreat further," she said.

Ms Yingluck said there was nothing more she could do after dissolving the House. She would stop performing her duties as caretaker premier only when a new cabinet is officially appointed.

The prime minister became emotional when asked about the protesters' demand that her family leave the country.

"I am not without feelings. I have heard their calls. As for the one about my family, I am also Thai. Will there be no place for me here? Is this what is going to happen?

"I have taken steps back as far as I can. I am asking to be treated fairly," she said and abruptly left the press conference. She also called on the protesters to return home.

"Please stop the protest and use the election mechanism. With the royal decree [calling for the election] in place, the Thais who truly own the powers can take part and decide the government that they want. This is in line with peaceful means and the constitution," she said.

Mr Suthep responded last night and asked Ms Yingluck to treat the protesters fairly. He said the demonstrators were aware of their legal rights and had never "banished" her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra, or anyone from the country.

"Thaksin left not because the people drove him away. He fled.

"And the people here shout "Get out" not because they want you to leave the country. They want you out of the prime minister's post. Don't make such a false accusation," he said.

Mr Suthep also chided Ms Yingluck for saying that she could not take any more steps back to appease the protesters. Calling a general election was just a trick to regain power and allow corruption to carry on after the election, he alleged.

A video clip showing Ms Yingluck smiling shortly after appearing to be on the verge of tears went viral yesterday.

It showed Ms Yingluck turning and smiling to a reporter who called out to her after she left the podium, sparking arguments on social media over whether Ms Yingluck had pretended to cry.

However, a reporter who covered Ms Yingluck's press conference said she turned round and smiled to another reporter who had followed her and asked her a question.

Army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha dismissed a rumour that spread widely on Tuesday that he, together with former defence minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwon and former army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda, met Mr Suthep at a military base.

Gen Prayuth said he did not meet Mr Suthep while Gen Prawit was ill with a cold and stayed at his home in Lat Phrao and Gen Anupong was abroad.

Col Winthai Suwaree, deputy army spokesman, said Gen Prayuth remained concerned about the political situation.

"The army chief is not being passive, nor is he at ease, and he's trying to find ways to resolve the problem as quickly as possible," Col Winthai said.

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Discussion 1 : 19/01/2014 at 10:23 AM
Suthep financially backing, the whole country knows who support. this is very sad that someone at the high level can get involve in such ugly business of what you're doing to the country. The western world is looking at Thailand now as a monkey society. whatever happens please don't let people die. do better than you're doing.
Discussion 2 : 19/12/2013 at 08:40 AM
Well, it is clearly obvious from the 'Likes' and 'Dislikes' here that most of the thinking population can see Suthep for what he is, a Meglomaniac who has become completely unbalanced as time goes on. In fact, he is fast running out of control and so should be dealt with in an appropiate manner, that is removed in 'some way or another' if this is not done, the problem will go on and on and there will never be a solution. The Dems leader appears to be distancing himself from the crazy Suthep, this should be some kind of an indication of how much credit this mad man Suthep has got with his peers. Come on RTP '"grow some balls"
Discussion 3 : 18/12/2013 at 11:19 PM
We should not listen too much or follow the politicians. People need to get their acts together and reform without political interference. Yes corruption, abuse of power, fair justice and prosecution, law enforcement, public safety should be on top.
Discussion 4 : 18/12/2013 at 09:19 PM
Well played Yingluck. Considering the pressure that you are being put under by the undemocratic team, you're playing with a straight bat against all the bouncers and no- balls
Discussion 5 : 18/12/2013 at 08:55 PM
The people want a larger voice in Government. Corruption is acceptable in everyday life as reported in a recent survey taken by the Bangkok Post. One that states as long as both parties benefit. As long as this is allowed to exsist and penelaties for corruption continue to go unchecked or under penealized then how is this country to address it's wrongs in other part of government? Right now, it seems the military is showing great restraint and is saying the right things and setting an example of following the rules and the constitution. Hopefull other government agencies will follow.
Discussion 6 : 12/12/2013 at 02:06 AM
Well said. Many Thais are suffering and risk going out of business because of Suthep's complete idiocy. It is time they should all just go home. The amnesty bill has been stopped. Thaksin can't come back. The "educated" should just go home and come back with some more intelligent and well-thought-out ideas as to how you're going to change the country. Making it up as you go along is unacceptable.
Discussion 7 : 12/12/2013 at 02:03 AM
Save for the loss of life, this is really compelling political theater. At the end of the day, the people will decide if it ends as a comedy or a tragedy. Unfortunately, it is all occuring in a country we care about. Good luck Thailand.
Discussion 8 : 11/12/2013 at 08:09 PM
Dear Orange: It is never that simple...! The anti-government protesters are attempting to recover the power that was stolen by Thaksin. Wake up, before it's too late.
Discussion 9 : 11/12/2013 at 06:45 PM
12 December tomorrow is the first trial day for Suthep and AV on their murder charges. Police should execute the recently issued arrest warrant against Suthep for inciting insurrection when he is allowed for a bail and walk out from the court.
Discussion 10 : 11/12/2013 at 06:22 PM
MungKood, Thaksin didn't disrupt the government (coup not withstanding), and he is the only one to be elected twice.
Discussion 11 : 11/12/2013 at 05:57 PM
How can you even choose sides? Neither the Shinawatra's or Suthep have democratic intentions, only democratic fog screens.
Discussion 12 : 11/12/2013 at 04:58 PM
Thai politics are not more than a comic strip...
Discussion 13 : 11/12/2013 at 04:18 PM
The people..... all 150,000 or so of them.... what about the other 40 million odd voters who did not give their authority?
Discussion 14 : 11/12/2013 at 04:13 PM
I sort of agree - but maybe she then has no case against him, after a lot of demonstrators are dead. Doesn't need to be that she is soft hearted.
Discussion 15 : 11/12/2013 at 02:37 PM
Hopefully the police arrest this dangerous madman (Suthep) He is destroying Thailand. Though several thousand followers would have to think before following these silly crazy first many international companies stop their investments in Thailand, due to the actions of these weird. Every Thai government led by anyone or any color has always done their best to have good relations with foreign countries which also benefit Thailand.
Discussion 16 : 11/12/2013 at 01:19 PM
Suthep can't be right in the head ! So far his demontrations have not achieved anything concrete . Controlled entry to government house and various ministries is a mere token but not a step forward in their proposed replacement of the present government . Suthep is trying his damnded to provoke a coup , but the army has learnt from last time , it does more harm than good . The government , army and police are playing it cool . Suthep must eventually run out of steam . Who are his supporters , rent a mob , I have seen very rough looking individuals on the television . Surely educated middle class must have jobs or businesses to attend to .
Discussion 17 : 11/12/2013 at 01:15 PM
Nobody denied Thailand need reforms but it cannot come from someone who represent actually a non legal party(PDRC)and dimmisd of his legal function in DEMS party . it s easy to do demagogy as he is doing now , but his past is not "transparent " to be now the one who can give order to the actual and elected gvt . why he didn t start this reform when he was PM with AV ? can some journalits ask him to have a clear answer ...
Discussion 18 : 11/12/2013 at 01:09 PM
Banmebkk, let me tell you something : thank you and congratulations. You have written since very long in this forum and your position against both proThaksin Parties and Red Shirts are well known. But with this post, what ever one's political opinion is, you prove what you are : a real democrat. Thanks again.
Discussion 19 : 11/12/2013 at 12:39 PM
How is being governed by a fugitive via his sister moral ?
Discussion 20 : 11/12/2013 at 12:04 PM
It is a crystal clear that what he using is undemocratic mean and it will not succeed for sure. If he is very confident that majority of Thais support his idea then he should fight in the election. So far Government had shown restraint and done good job.
Discussion 21 : 11/12/2013 at 11:47 AM
Interesting reading about the good guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suthep_Thaugsuban
Discussion 22 : 11/12/2013 at 11:44 AM
Arrest Suthep? OK and arrest Thaksin at the same time would be fair.
Discussion 23 : 11/12/2013 at 11:39 AM
How can anyone support this? The protesters and Suthep have gone to far. I can understand that people want change and that they're tired of corruption and abuse of power, but being lead by a politician, himself involved in numerous corruption cases, that wants to overthrow an elected government and set up a "people's council" is borderline insanity.
Discussion 24 : 11/12/2013 at 11:34 AM
The decision for elections and caretakers on 2 februari should be respected. Although it is not a guarantie for fraude free elections, it is better to allow international observers, showing you have nothing to hide. What is the problem if international observers conferm the election results, or are some groups afraid for their conclusions? Of course Suthep will oppose this, like he always did before.
Discussion 25 : 11/12/2013 at 11:27 AM
Well everyone in this country know, we are very close to high season in the tourist sector. If the tourist do not come now, they will wait for one year or longer, because most tourist do not like to cancel there holiday or change them shortly before the plane is leaving. How many more people have to loose there jobs because of Mr. Suthep, how many more small and midsize biz have to close. Put an end to this for all Thais
Discussion 26 : 11/12/2013 at 11:26 AM
This is grave threats, Inciting violence and Public disorder. Police and even Military shouldn't be allowing Suthep to continue committing these insane acts. I think he should be arrested immediately. He's very desperate wanting to overthrow a democratic government thru public chaos.
Discussion 27 : 11/12/2013 at 11:12 AM
This is not a fight for democracy or the Thai society it is a fight between two feudal lords and their cronies.
Discussion 28 : 11/12/2013 at 10:33 AM
For heaven sake, please stop Suthep's madness. I understand what he's trying to achieve but pushing a person against the wall and demanding that the TS clan and businesses be wiped out are incomprehensible. Please for don't destroy Thai society. Find a more amicable way to settle the problems. Remember not all politicians can be trusted 100% and hence there's no perfect solution.
Discussion 29 : 11/12/2013 at 10:23 AM
The red leaders weren't the opposition party who had resigned to take part in the protests.
Discussion 30 : 11/12/2013 at 10:22 AM
The people.
Discussion 31 : 11/12/2013 at 10:21 AM
"Live by the sword, die by the sword", being an intolerable war mongrel, these actions have nothing to do with democracy or a better Thailand, just playing and steering emotions leading to disaster.
Discussion 32 : 11/12/2013 at 10:19 AM
All this talk about life time bans and demands to get out are rediculous, democracy is very much about fairness and equality why do you think it begins with an election term, both sides have to except and contribute to the system through debate. Problem arises out of one sides refrusal to participate and instead looking to seize power. It real is that simple!
Discussion 33 : 11/12/2013 at 10:13 AM
Though BP commentators are hardly adequate or indicative sample of the zeitgeist, it seems that most of the comments here disagree with Suthep's tactics (or lack thereof). I wonder how applicable this sentiment is to the protesters or general population out there. Can they see that Suthep is insane? Or has the mob mentality blind them to any practical thought? It's good to see academia trying to inject logic into the mix but I don't think there's enough momentum or weight behind them to amount to meaningful changes.
Discussion 34 : 11/12/2013 at 10:09 AM
Suthep's main objective is to destroy democracy and gain power through any and all means available. Suthep is a raging out of control. Lock him up.
Discussion 35 : 11/12/2013 at 09:55 AM
Maybe it will come as a shock to the military and the police when they realize what might happen in the future if Suthep’s attempts of overthrowing an elected government succeed. It will open the door for every crackpot to get a large mob behind him trying to change Thailand, the constitution and how the country is governed. At that time they will have lost the moral authority to intervene since they are not prepared to take side in what clearly is an unconstitutional attempt to overthrow the current government. It might be possible that we all have witnessed the dawn of time that will tear apart Thailand.
Discussion 36 : 11/12/2013 at 09:49 AM
Without a Major Reform, Thailand will never be able to get out of this Vicious Cycle when the whole Region's votes can be bought and small Parties can be paid to join to make Majority. And after that The Feast begins. That is what has been happening since The Shinnawatras came to Politics. Do you call that a Democracy? I would like to know
Discussion 37 : 11/12/2013 at 09:47 AM
PDRC! Where is the office? Who are the people? Is it register with Registration of Society? No such right. It is just a virtual. It is just Suthep talk, you can just ignore him and proceed with snap election as he want to return the power to Thai people to choose not he choose just using PDRC.
Discussion 38 : 11/12/2013 at 09:44 AM
i am certain that mr suthep has lost his marbles! this man is full of delusions of grandeur and has shown the thai people exactly what he is,a would be dictator! there is an outstanding warrant for his arrest and here he is threatening to have the pm arrested! he leaves his political party and forms another and assumes that the thai people are right behind him! how wrong he is! he has lost the battle of wills and is now trying to gain face with his deluded followers! he should be arrested before he causes this great country any more problems! why is he so afraid of the ballot box??????????
Discussion 39 : 11/12/2013 at 09:38 AM
Let's wait Mr. Suthep's 'Never ending final deadlines' 'Next of the next final announcements'
Discussion 40 : 11/12/2013 at 09:37 AM
Let's wait Mr. Suthep's 'Never ending final deadlines' 'Next of the next final announcemets'
Discussion 41 : 11/12/2013 at 09:32 AM
There is hardly any words left for this Maniac. He really thinks he speaks on the behalf of all Thai people and he really thinks he can order the police and army around? He even decides what is and is not offensive to the monarchy "He said such an act was considered offensive to the monarchy" What gives him the right to do anything he is doing. This article gets more interesting if one exchange Yingluck/Shinawatra with Mr Suthep. Why isn't anyone in charge doing something? If the police can't do anything surely the army must step in and remove Suthep before this turns really ugly?
Discussion 42 : 11/12/2013 at 09:30 AM
Enough is enough. Protesters, you have have made your point. It is time to put Suthep in jail where he belongs, and for people to get back to work.
Discussion 43 : 11/12/2013 at 09:29 AM
This is and always has been a conflict between two factions of the elite, the Red Shirts, Yellow Shirts, current protesters are merely the pawns. Who ever comes out the winner will be no different in the end than what is now or has been in the past..
Discussion 44 : 11/12/2013 at 09:24 AM
People in Bangkok are supposed to be civilized and educated isn't it? So please don't follow Suthep anymore in his actions! The guy became insane since his 'victory' on monday. He thinks he has all the rights because he represents Thailand. Or you want to replace what you call 'Thaksin regime' by 'Suthep regime' because you think it will be better for Thailand?
Discussion 45 : 11/12/2013 at 09:23 AM
Corruption? All PDRC clean? In fact, it is not about democracy, it is about unhappiness of another family, because there is always only one family can be long-lasting powerful, enjoy massive support and love. When the root-class hang on Thaksin's picture on wall, it is trouble. Shinawatra family must disapper from the public, only one popular color, not the RED. One pool, one dragon, two can not co-exist.
Discussion 46 : 11/12/2013 at 09:18 AM
Indeed! He rejected the dissolution of the cabinet and the call for election. He even said "Stepping down of the Prime Minister is not enough." Now he wants the Shinawatra's clan to leave office and banish. The Thai people joining the protest must think well that Suthep's goal is a personal attack to the Shinawatras not about corruption and not about the country. But in my analysis, after more than a month of protesting against the government, after hearing the progress of Suthep's speeches and orders, intelligent, wise people won't just follow Suthep's orders and speeches. Instead would step backward and think hard and decide.
Discussion 47 : 11/12/2013 at 09:12 AM
this guy is mad...he has gone overboard,even the agenda is right,his method is wrong!
Discussion 48 : 11/12/2013 at 09:10 AM
Both sides deserve each other, neither is a viable option. One thinks that winning the popular vote through vote buying and plundering state coffers is the way to go, the other thinks that the minority knows best so they should be allowed to dictate. Can we find a third option somewhere? We need a party that will bring in policies to help everyone and move the country forward. Emphasis needs to be on the "everyone" because I'm fed up with them using taxpayers money to help those in their circle of friends. A country of great potential constantly shooting itself in the foot and going round in circles, it'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Discussion 49 : 11/12/2013 at 09:08 AM
It begin to look like a coup is disguise using PT parliamentary mistakes and protester instead of the military or court. Demand for Shin clan to leave country, confiscate their property, uproot all connections of the Shin will probably be the ultimate aim of PDRC. The question is Why enter in to a dangerous path that could lead to civil war?
Discussion 50 : 11/12/2013 at 08:52 AM
You can say the same thing about the riots in 2010. How come the protest leaders back then weren't arrested? As for elections, it's OK for PTP to win. But not OK for them to disregard the laws of this country. Nor enrich themselves through corruption. That's what the people are protesting about.
Discussion 51 : 11/12/2013 at 08:48 AM
The Shinawatra's are a clan worthy of the distinction of being the first to receive a lifetime ban, but there are several other clans that should receive the same treatment.
Discussion 52 : 11/12/2013 at 08:46 AM
What are the police doing? Please arrest Suthep and throw him in jail. I hope protesters condemn his agenda as well no matter how much people hate the Shinawatra. Having Yingluck step down is symbolic enough and positive steps towards pushing for less corruption.
Discussion 53 : 11/12/2013 at 08:45 AM
The only reason for Yingluck, qualified or not, to become PM was as a matter of Shinawatra dynastic succession. In royal families, including Thailand and Britain, when something unexpected happened to the intended heir to the throne, an unprepared sibling may successfully take the throne. But that is not justification for perpetuating the Shinawatra dynasty.
Discussion 54 : 11/12/2013 at 08:43 AM
As his hours before the historic trials against him are numbered, while the clock keeps ticking, Suthep's madness and anxiety are escalating rapidly. I guess most of his worshipers have realized that.
Discussion 55 : 11/12/2013 at 08:42 AM
PM Yingluck! use your authority to stop him from keep on attacking you. He had gone too far and you are too lenient.
Discussion 56 : 11/12/2013 at 08:41 AM
Suthep vs. Yingluck: Thai politicians are not good at problem-solving and have little skills in negotiating, reaching consensus, commit to a due process that is legally binding for all parties on all levels, respect the separation of power to facilitate process and refrain from selfish action that leads to unnecessary confrontation and developmental delays for the entire country. The outcome is the continuation of the crisis.
Discussion 57 : 11/12/2013 at 08:40 AM
Suthep is insane. And same goes for anyone supporting him. He must be stopped before he sends Thailand into chaos.
Discussion 58 : 11/12/2013 at 08:40 AM
Suthep vs Yingluck: Thai politicians are not good at problem-solving and have little skills on negotiating, reaching consensus, commit to a due process that is legally binding for all parties on all levels, respect the separation of power to facilitate process and refrain from selfish action that leads to unnecessary confrontation and developmental delays for the entire country. As on outcome, crisis continues.
Discussion 59 : 11/12/2013 at 08:32 AM
Your means are wrong. You can change leaders by the vote. For it you have to propose a politic and leaders whom the majority of people can approved. You can change a system which suspended the democracy only by the violence. Is it really what you want for your country?
Discussion 60 : 11/12/2013 at 08:29 AM
Who the hell does this guy think he is? Thaskin?
Discussion 61 : 11/12/2013 at 08:24 AM
As long as the democracy is living, you can have the civil peace. Suthep refuse to play the democratic game, doing that, he oblige the defenders of democracy to react.
Discussion 62 : 11/12/2013 at 08:18 AM
The real elites, educated people and good people have learned the lessons of the world history: This lessons show in a irrefutable way that when you suspend the democracy, when you build a system which prevents a wide part of people from being represented and when a minority lock the system to keep the power despite the will of the majority of people, you lose the freedom of speech, a lot of people are push in jails and you cannot change the system without violent and murderous confrontations.
Discussion 63 : 11/12/2013 at 08:03 AM
Gen Prayuth should help the Police to apprehend the Thugs' Leader and throw him to jail and everything will be OK and just wait for the next election and let Thai people decide who they want to run the country, if the majority think Suthep is good, then so be it, vote for him!
Discussion 64 : 11/12/2013 at 07:57 AM
The PM appears to be very dumb; protesters want her and her family cronies in government OUT. This would take steam from of the protest, and get us to step two of a better Thailand. Why doesn't she take a long holiday at her bother's luxury house in London, or visit him in Dubai?
Discussion 65 : 11/12/2013 at 07:51 AM
Surely any normal thinking person has had enough of this trouble maker Suthep by now.
Discussion 66 : 11/12/2013 at 07:35 AM
Who gave this guy the power to dictate to the current PM, the Police and the Army?
Discussion 67 : 11/12/2013 at 07:20 AM
UDD has sounded the rally call. Please don't underestimate their capabilities.
Discussion 68 : 11/12/2013 at 07:16 AM
Easy solution: pack all the shinawatra in a chartered jmbo jet and off to Dubai. Let them take all their ill-gotten gains with them
Discussion 69 : 11/12/2013 at 07:12 AM
UDD is basically calling for civil war, then. They should change their motto from 'Thaksin thinks, PTP acts' to also include 'violence and intimidation first'!
Discussion 70 : 11/12/2013 at 07:04 AM
Dislike Dislike Dislike Dislike oh! Wait a minute, he's just having a laugh, it's all a parody isn't it? i get it like like like like!
Discussion 71 : 11/12/2013 at 07:01 AM
Smiles and crocodile tears. The hallmarks of a withered and untrusted individual - representative of her family and of her "Type" (one dare not bring her true origins into this). If she were truly Thai, she and her brother would not have undertaken so many erroneous and weakening policies that have damaged Thailand's social fabric, economy and standing in the World. She now hides behind the protective barrier of the Great Constitution; the very institution she and her family have attempted to dismantle, for their own personal aggrandisement. There is only one word for these types: Purge.
Discussion 72 : 11/12/2013 at 06:58 AM
Well, here we are back to medevil politics. Banishment and punishment are the order of the day. Would it not be wonderful if Thailand had leaders such Mandela? The Buddhist values of compassion and equanimity would be valuable now.

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