Suthep won't join govt reform talks

Anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban says he will not take part in the first meeting of the government's reform committee on Sunday.

Mr Suthep, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) secretary-general, accused the government of Yingluck Shinawatra of trying to confuse the public about wanting to reform the country following a general election that has been called for Feb 2.

"At first, I was told that the government will hold talks on national reform and it wants the PDRC to join," he said in his Friday night address at the group's rally site at Democracy Monument in Bangkok.

"But I received telephone calls from respected senior figures telling me not to go because attending this meeting would mean that we affirm the government's legitimacy.

"In brief, if there is a general election before national reform, we won't negotiate because it would be a waste of time," said the former Democrat Party power broker.

Some other PDRC figures had indicated earlier that they would attend the government-sponsored event on Sunday. The PDRC is also taking part in a seminar on reform at Thammasat University on Saturday.

Mr Suthep, meanwhile, has informed Supreme Commander Tanasak Patimapragorn of the PDRC's intention to meet him at 3pm on Saturday at armed forces headquarters to explain what "the masses" want and to open up a two-way communication channel.

Once Gen Tanasak understands what the people want, the PDRC will not force him to take sides, said Mr Suthep.

However, he said, he was informed that the national police chief (Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew) would  not join Saturday's meeting and that Pol Gen Adul planned to arrest him.

"I will travel with my PDRC friends without the masses (to the armed forces headquarters). We are fighters for the people so we have to be valiant and dignified. My brothers and sisters can wait for me here tomorrow (at the rally site)," Mr Suthep said.

The red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has declined the military’s invitation to listen to the PDRC proposals.

UDD chairwoman Tida Tawornseth said her group would not send any representatives to take part in the meeting on Saturday.

Lt Gen Harit Pumhiran, head of the military's Directorate of Joint Civil Affairs, said military leaders would not ask any questions nor would they give any opinions during the forum.

He reiterated that representatives from state agencies, academics, foreign and Thai news media, and various other stakeholders were also invited to attend the meeting.

They include those from the Office of the Auditor General of Thailand, National Anti-Corruption Commission, Office of the National Human Rights Commission, Political Development Council, the Office of the Civil Service Commission, Lawyers Council of Thailand, and the Election Commission.

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Discussion 1 : 14/12/2013 at 09:03 AM
Of course he want join any government talks that would be above him to try to follow the democratic rules and domestic laws. Just the thing that this self proclaimed power hungry hate monger still hasn't been arrested can only mean that "someone" is protecting him its so far beyond imagination that someone as a private person can instigate an coup without being arrested. I would be real ashamed if my daughter and my son asked me, "Where were you when maniac Suthep took freedom and democracy away from Thailand", and my only answer would be "I was home doing nothing just watching tv".
Discussion 2 : 14/12/2013 at 05:40 AM
"Anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban says he will not take part in the first meeting of the government's reform committee on Sunday." "The red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has declined the military’s invitation to listen to the PDRC proposals." That's the way to help Thailand! You have your meeting and I'll have mine and never the twain shall meet.
Discussion 3 : 14/12/2013 at 04:54 AM
Thai politicians must work hard to introduce and implement new projects for Thailand, how else can they get their 35 % cut. Many projects are useless, but it does not matter to those politicians. It is about the 35-40% cut for themselves what really matters. This has to be stopped and that is exactly what the protesters want.
Discussion 4 : 14/12/2013 at 04:48 AM
They should all exile..........but where to find an honest replacement? Maybe one idea would be to re-introduce an indian police force in bangkok as the british once had? Just like the gurka riot force in Singapore!?
Discussion 5 : 14/12/2013 at 04:21 AM
Suthep just cost Thailand 3.8 billion baht for premature elections and he's not even in power yet. The fugitive Fascist Dictator can only lead the country if he can take control of it before an election takes place.
Discussion 6 : 14/12/2013 at 03:49 AM
Suthep yet again calls elections a waste of time. Reading this paper the past few weeks is like entering a different dimension where everything is backwards. Right is the wrong. Wrong is the new right. Someone please wake me up from this nightmare.
Discussion 7 : 14/12/2013 at 03:47 AM
@ tokay I meant people around the globe who are interested in this topic. Also I do not think in the governments of the superpowers are better people than there are in the Thai politics. Arrogant Liars and lobbyists anywhere. Just in western Europe we are so lucky to have a very good social and health care system even for the poorest. Hope everything will become good. best regards
Discussion 8 : 14/12/2013 at 03:19 AM
it looks Suthep is string-puppeted these "respected senior figures" who called him and told him "not to go because attending this meeting would mean that we affirm the governments legitimacy", this so clever man....
Discussion 9 : 14/12/2013 at 02:52 AM
In short, and with a lot of bitterness, I consider there is a positive future for all Thais after Suthep, but I doubt there can be any such thing with Thaksin, IMO.
Discussion 10 : 14/12/2013 at 02:48 AM
The origine of Courts, even before Laws were written, was to make disagreeing parties come together, and reconcile within a compromise. One party here does not accept the rulings of Courts when they go against their 'ideas'. The only other High Authority in the country being fair, honest and unbiased, seems to be incapacitated by the Constitution. Where is the solution then? ALL parties, if not ready, must, alas, be forced, into, real, negotiations, and a compromise! But by whom, the RTA?
Discussion 11 : 14/12/2013 at 02:17 AM
Thailand is set on a cross-road politically by politicians. Which direction to go to be chosen by Thais is deeply headache do not be easy to make decision. Since many years passing by, many prominent politicians had worked hard to improve Thai living of standard and upgrade of Thai international image, unfortunately those improvements were not be taken as satisfactory one. At the moment what Thai politicians need is sincerity. Be a real politician to made true reform. No hanky-panky and malarkey, and take what Thai people want seriously.
Discussion 12 : 14/12/2013 at 02:08 AM
Mr. Suthep talks a lot about whats right and wrong in Thailand. He himself should turn himself in to face the murder charges from the 2010 riots. Is Mr. Suthep hiding behind this protest movement to avoid the 2010 charges of murder? Do what's right Mr. , turn yourself in, for Thailand. from iPhone application.
Discussion 13 : 14/12/2013 at 02:00 AM
"The international community" - I hope you don't mean just the reporters from some of the international media but the foreign governments too. But even the "international community", how many times they sent troops to another countries to overthrow other governments? I am not saying we (Thailand) should do, but superpowers, or oil rich nations, do say one thing but do the other (behind the door). If you look at the red towns (the pro-government side) like Udon, they control their political opponents by guns, isn't that already a failed state? And how do you feel we have a government like this running the country?
Discussion 14 : 14/12/2013 at 01:15 AM
Why are you calling him the former Democrat Party power broker when you should be calling him the 'fugitive former Democrat Party power broker', you do this with Thaksin, why not Suthep??
Discussion 15 : 14/12/2013 at 01:09 AM
@amy1980 - I think you are generalizing too much on vote buying. Not everyone sold their votes for money but will vote if they get benefits from government programs just like USA and other countries. Sure vote buying do exists; however, there is no major issue with vote buying that we have learnt of. Saying that the new reform should address this again. This is work in progress as people are more educated, getting out poverty and become middle class, this will reduce and go away. Right now poverty and lack of right education give opportunities to easy vote buying with cash or consumer products in exchange for votes.
Discussion 16 : 14/12/2013 at 01:06 AM
The reason behind the protest was because Suthep claims the act of changing the Senate to become fully elected was unconstitutional. Forming a government that is not elected is treason.
Discussion 17 : 14/12/2013 at 01:01 AM
I would hope people stop listening and stop following Suthep and the government (YS) now and instead focusing on setting reform as quickly as possible which is a big task. Time is precious than ever. Yes most crucial reform should be done before the next election, or some can post-activate later after a new election. Let's do it right and not rush into this. At the same time, the government cannot make any major changes or big project approval until a new election is over and a new government in place. Also imo DEM and PT leaders&family members should be banned from politics so we can get the clean new start for good.
Discussion 18 : 14/12/2013 at 12:51 AM
My brothers and sisters can wait for me here tomorrow (at the rally site)," Mr Suthep said. and also the judge regarding your trail is waiting for you... that s true ...too busy agenda !!!
Discussion 19 : 14/12/2013 at 12:34 AM
In my opinion a state which will be run for to long by a fugitive criminal will fail. The international community knows very well that Thailand is govern from Arabia via his proxies in Bangkok. Also the international community knows very well that because the massive vote buying in north and north east Thailand any election is not a fair one. Just the richest and most unscrupulous win and this have absolutely nothing to do with democracy. Without huge reforms first an election in Thailand is just worthless and the Shin clan will blood the kingdom dry. My opinion. I love the Thai people from north to south and hope the Shins exit politics soon
Discussion 20 : 14/12/2013 at 12:15 AM
Yes, lets get rid of the Shinawatra clan and start from there, i'm sure the Red shirts should be able to stand on there own two feet without him.
Discussion 21 : 14/12/2013 at 12:13 AM
Look how may times do people have to be told that Suthep does not represent the majority of voters in Thailand. The PDRC are an unelected body and have no say whatsoever in Thai politics. The international community will only accept a change of government by democratic means ie an election. If the military was to back Suthep then Thailand would become certainly a failed state.
Discussion 22 : 13/12/2013 at 11:24 PM
Yeah, Suthep is not someone to easily be lured into these tricks by the Shinawatra clan, and surely not by the novice (in Burberry dresses) string-pupetted by the criminal in Dubai. It looks like this trick will not work and that the problems will last for some more time until the Shinawatra clan and the PT party will start realizing that the people do no longer want them around and that they should go, PERMANENTLY with all the money they have stolen from Thailand. This seems to me square one of the "NEW THAILAND"... (if any)
Discussion 23 : 13/12/2013 at 11:02 PM
Maybe they could invite Tony Blair as well.

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