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Discussion 1 : 12/09/2012 at 10:53 AM

when they receive the body here in canada they where in deconposition because they where not frozen like it was suppose to be .. the father spoke on tv and said their was many question about the bad condition of the body when they arrive but no answer where given by the thai autority.father also said they had prblem to get the body and the body disapeare for more then 48 hrs they also clean the room less then 2 days after the death so impossible to find clue or answer to the death nobody knew what to do for the investigation ... we could see on tv when people play with the dead body opening the bag for picture like a trophy ..no respect for the family who saw that like everybody in canada...anyway it was not the first death on that island and nobody had answer on the other death ???? they said misterious death again ????

Discussion 2 : 02/09/2012 at 10:52 PM

I use high concentration Deep Woods Off, available in a spray pump bottle. Some drunk kid, high on meth could easily spike my drink if I left it on my table with my drink.Hey old man you have stomach ache tonight. 55555

Discussion 3 : 02/09/2012 at 10:45 PM

This is so unbelievably sad for the victims and their families. I think the odds are that the 2009 deaths might have been from the same cause. I never liked the culture of Phi Phi and wouldn't stay at a hotel there. This possibly was an overdose and they knew what they were drinking, being on vacation and willing to try something they might normally not try. Or not. The police really need to solve this. The bottom line is, if you go to Phi Phi, watch what you drink, what you eat and where you snorkel. What a "paradise".

Discussion 4 : 02/09/2012 at 07:46 PM

I suspect that someone is killing farlang tourist for fun. I'm sure this goes on in Thailand more than we know. In this case maybe there is a serial killer lose in the Phuket/Phi Phi area but only the police know. They will never tell the public in fear of the Tourism factor.

Discussion 5 : 02/09/2012 at 06:49 PM

Most tourists spray themselves with DEET so it's presence is not surprising. I will be more interested to see the Canadian autopsy result since no figures are given here for the amount of DEET. The Canadian report talks of blue lips and fingers ("La bouche et les doigts des deux soeurs étaient bleuis"). However, blue lips are not a common symptom of DEET poisoning (which is more likely to produce red lips and blistering) but is a well known symptom of carbon monoxide poisoning (which is a much more common cause of death in Thailand).

Discussion 6 : 02/09/2012 at 05:09 PM

bkposter, disc 19. Please do not put allegations on the dead. They have no defence.

Discussion 7 : 02/09/2012 at 04:02 PM

The question still remains: was it an accidental over dose or an intentional murder. I would guress the former, but If there are any personal belongings missing, then it might be the later. They may have been so drunk that once they were sick they were just too weak and disoriented to call for help.

Discussion 8 : 02/09/2012 at 03:26 PM

tcr Disc 17. This is a shocking revelation. How can this be so. Under the protection of the police ? Do you mean this is administered by request from the locals ?.

Discussion 9 : 02/09/2012 at 03:02 PM

Use of deet (from mosquito coils) mixed with Kratom leaves is a VERY popular drink in the south. Whether you want to believe it or not, it's reality. I've been to these places and it's easy to get any kind of drugs you want. Police turn a blind eye to it as they profit from this. In other words, the local police help cover this up. Somebody mixed the wrong amounts and these young girls paid the price for it. The police need to be reformed.

Discussion 10 : 02/09/2012 at 02:20 PM

Howell, Disc 11 I am in absolute agreement with you. Their drinks were not spiked with DEET, they would have spit it out immediately. I have never heard of anyone getting a high on this, and I don't believe they travelled half way round the world to commit suicide. Are we, the public, really so stupid as to believe this weak story ?

Discussion 11 : 02/09/2012 at 12:12 PM

I dont believe this is what happened to these girls .

Discussion 12 : 02/09/2012 at 11:11 AM

Not convinced by the story “accidentally” which is of course convenient – case closed! I don’t believe that anyone would use DEET to sweeten their drink; to me it doesn’t look like an accident but more like murder.

Discussion 13 : 02/09/2012 at 11:00 AM

I agree with all the sceptical voices on this. It is not credible that anyone would continue to drink something with a high concentration of DEET. But it is credible that the authorities would be eager for a result that means the victims were not murdered (note: they are already - without investigation - saying the overdose was done "accidentally").

Discussion 14 : 02/09/2012 at 09:59 AM

An "overdose"? I can't believe that anyone in their right mind would knowingly drink any quantity of insect repellant to get high.

Discussion 15 : 02/09/2012 at 09:28 AM

You have to drink a lot of DEET for it to kill you, it is very bitter, tastes disgusting and has a strong smell. Heartbreaking for the family. I hope their investigation reveals the real reason. 'In 2009, two young tourists, one from the United States and the other from Norway, who were staying at a nearby guest house on Phi Phi also died under mysterious circumstances. Their deaths remain unsolved, but there was speculation the women had been poisoned'. Could they be the same cause as the Chiang Mai poisonings ?

Discussion 16 : 02/09/2012 at 08:23 AM

"It is thought that an overdose of DEET was accidentally mixed into the young women's drinks". A but confusing this statement. Did DEET acidently fall into the bucket or acidently made too strong? If its the latter then isn’t this called involuntary manslaughter.

Discussion 17 : 02/09/2012 at 08:08 AM

The unanswered question is; did these girls know they were taking this cocktail? Were they out for some kicks and knew there were intoxicating substances (albeit in lethal doses) in their drink, or where they spiked and if so why? Lots of backpackers at parties put strange things down their throats (mushroom shakes for example) trusting them, I can't speak for these two poor girls, but parties and elicit drugs or concoctions kill people the world over periodically.

Discussion 18 : 02/09/2012 at 05:33 AM

Why is it automatically assumed that it was accidental? Maybe, the deaths were not planned, but purposely spiking the drinks of two young ladies is a distinct possibility. Why don't we know where the drink came from and who was there at the time? Aren't the CCTVs working?

Discussion 19 : 02/09/2012 at 05:05 AM

So if this is the case are the police going to track down WHO made the drinks as I am sure the 2 girls did not. I don't think so!!

Discussion 20 : 01/09/2012 at 11:02 PM

In any responsible country this sort of information would have been made public as soon as possible to prevent further similar deaths ... if it was indeed the finding of the BKK autopsy. Of course, we can all wait a few months longer to get the results of the Montreal autopsy, but then since the bodies were apparently embalmed before being taken to Canada, the chances of any conclusive outcome eventuating are probably not that great. Well done, Thailand.

Discussion 21 : 01/09/2012 at 10:20 PM

Maybe popular amongst backpackers. The "full moon parties" are a big business these days, especially in Australia. Someone dies at almost every full moon party on Koh Phangnan. If the police really want to crack down on drugs, all they do is have to raid one of the parties.

Discussion 22 : 01/09/2012 at 10:15 PM

To drsmith Discussion 2: Where there is a demand, Thailand is not shying away to be the supplying destination, for various entertainments out of the ordinary, in many cases obscene, dangerously fake, and sickening perverse, with increasing numbers of deaths. The total lack of law enforcement and greed without limits drives the machine of self destruction of a once admirable land with authentic smiles.

Discussion 23 : 01/09/2012 at 09:45 PM

Don't leave your DEET repellant and your bucket drink out of your sight.

Discussion 24 : 01/09/2012 at 09:16 PM

With so many annual questionable deaths, I do not know why anyone would chose Thailand as a destination. The lure of all night parties and cheap sex overides common sense in all of these cases.

Discussion 25 : 01/09/2012 at 07:50 PM

To say this a a 'popular' drink amongst young people is wrong. Kratom mixed with cough medicine and coke is popular with some young people but adding 'extras' like crushed mosquito coils or light bulbs is something different and not common. Even amongst hardcore users this is considered extreme and unnecessarily dangerous.