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Discussion 1 : 16/09/2012 at 09:40 PM

@dondunnn. 'My point was that the authorities were able to prove that he had broken that law because he had followed legal procedure and given written permission (with photocopy of his ID card attached) for his wife to do a business deal.' Thank you for pointing out that Thaksin broke the law. You may not like it but it is the law of the land.

Discussion 2 : 16/09/2012 at 09:27 PM

Disc 25. If your case is true then paying tribute to these outlaws is money thrown away and the only convincing argument they will understand is gunpowder and shot. Maybe war is the only solution.

Discussion 3 : 16/09/2012 at 08:45 PM

"Mr Turki said that the protection of the human rights of Muslim minorities around the world is always the top priority of the MWL. He said Muslim minorities should be assured the same access to equal rights as the majority groups in all countries." Fair question for Mr. Turki, Does your concern for protection of the human rights extend to non-Muslim minorities in Muslim majority countries, like your home country of Saudi Arabia for example? Or is this only a one way street that demands respect for Muslim rights, but in places controlled by Muslims denies the same rights to non-Muslims?

Discussion 4 : 16/09/2012 at 07:59 PM

@discussion 21 - It is straight out of Mao's handbook. You terrorise the people to the point that are afraid to oppose you. You show them the government cannot protect them, so they have to cooperate. They dare not inform on you and will provide you with support in the form of food and information, however reluctantly. You can see that it is working, since the Buddhist minority is already leaving their homes in the most dangerous areas. The only way to combat this is to protect the people. Thus far the army has made a complete bodge of doing so.

Discussion 5 : 16/09/2012 at 07:42 PM

D#14 Domdunnn, Don't worry my dear I am not criticizing for nothing everything I say is totally true and from real life experience and have no hate toward any nation or ethnicity whatsoever, I myself from the middle ease(UAE) and agnostic EX Muslim/Jew. There is no Country in the whole ME or Arab or Muslim world trash women only Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, as for Takki Khun Geoffo D#16 provide more than satisfied answer Thank you Geoffo, No official can do a business or their direct relative with government a very well known international law.

Discussion 6 : 16/09/2012 at 07:41 PM

khunbill There should be zero tolerance for murderers. My point is that Thailand has around 3 million Muslims and (if you believe the Army) only about 9000 are in involved in the cowardly murders in the south. So should the 997 out of a 1000 who are law-abiding be subjected to hatred and abuse because of the 3 out of a 1000 who are evil?

Discussion 7 : 16/09/2012 at 07:16 PM

geffo D16 My post was about the fact that Thailand, like the ME countries referred to by the original poster has laws that discriminate against women. If you read my post again, slowly this time and resist the temptation to jump to conclusions, you will agree that there is no trace of a suggestion that Thaksin was 'a victim' and no mention of an 'honest mistake'. The law that he was prosecuted under is not relevant to my point. My point was that the authorities were able to prove that he had broken that law because he had followed legal procedure and given written permission (with photocopy of his ID card attached) for his wife to do a business deal. In a country like Thailand, in the 21st century it should not be necessary for any woman to have to obtain her husbands permission to enter into a business deal. That was my single and only point, anything else you found in there was a product of your own prejudice.

Discussion 8 : 16/09/2012 at 06:35 PM

Can anyone answer what is so important that innocent men, women, children have to die on a daily basis. What do these people want that they feel the need to murder in order to acheive their goals.

Discussion 9 : 16/09/2012 at 05:49 PM

bern1005 "intolerance" Just how long are we suppose to tolerate the killings

Discussion 10 : 16/09/2012 at 05:44 PM

The Saudi mullahs are the biggest financers of the Deep South's muslim people. For years they've been converting Thai muslims to the type of islam practiced in Saudi Arabia, which is only a 'notch' ( if even that much! ) more liberal than the Taliban's brand of islam. The last person that should be involved in peace talks is Abdullah bin Abdul Mohsin al-Turkie. He should just stay home and 'comfort' his 4 wives and watch a few public stonings.

Discussion 11 : 16/09/2012 at 05:28 PM

Thankfully not so many Muslim defenders here today. Take a simple snapshot of a small sector of unrest and violence in the world today... Pakistan...violence and killing Libya...unrest and killing Afghanistan...unrest and killing Southern Thailand...unrest and killing Yemin...unrest and killing AQAP, Al-Qaeda's Yemeni offshoot... reported today in this newspaper...'it is the "duty" for Muslims on Western soil to attack US interests.' If you can put 2+2 together you will get the same answer to what is causing the problems facing these regions. Please don't preach that this is a religion of peace.

Discussion 12 : 16/09/2012 at 04:13 PM

There is a real sense of bitterness in many comments that is easy to understand when you see innocents being killed and maimed. But anger and vengeance usually only lead to more violence and suffering. Can intolerance of those who look different or speak a different language or worship differently be justified solely because a small percentage of those people commit evil acts? Is that really what all the angry commentators here believe?

Discussion 13 : 16/09/2012 at 03:43 PM

D14 , The Thai law you refer to said a public servant can not use their position to give their spouse a financial benefit, the law was promulgated in 1978 I believe. Find another excuse for TS. The "he was a poor little victim" angle is well past its use by date just like his "honest mistake is now just a childish bleat. In law and life "ignorance is not an excuse" .

Discussion 14 : 16/09/2012 at 02:25 PM

"human right for muslim minorities around the world is always the top piority of the WML. Well if they would stop terrorizing the world they might get some respect. How ironic of the the day of his arrival murder and burning of a innoent housekeeper woman. Waiting to hear his comment on that.

Discussion 15 : 16/09/2012 at 02:14 PM

somnamna D11 Before you criticise Middle-Eastern countries who discriminate against women just remember that what got Thaksin into trouble was a Thai law that said that his wife couldn't enter into a business deal without her husband's permission. People who live in glass houses.......

Discussion 16 : 16/09/2012 at 01:07 PM

Great a hard core muslim from the middle east. Is that suppose to make things better? Dont think so!

Discussion 17 : 16/09/2012 at 12:43 PM

I have Muslim friends and colleagues in Bangkok, all of them fine people and peaceful as can be. The problems in the far south are more about ethnicity than religion. The violence is only in the provinces with a Malay speaking majority. Muslims actually constitute about 1/3rd of the population in the entire south. Thailand has long had religious freedom, which Saudi Arabia certainly does not. It is punishable by law in SA to practice any faith other than Islam.

Discussion 18 : 16/09/2012 at 11:26 AM

D#9 Khun Dickemery, Don't be optimistic by his words and don't wait for a real results or actions from a man who approved the following laws in his country against the women without the permission of her legal male guardian and in the same time is calling for Muslims human rights: -Cannot work or apply to a job, the right to travel alone, receiving education, marriage and divorce, to follow and finish her official documents and papers including her cases in court, having medical surgery, opening a bank account even her kids, enroll them in schools, ask for their school files or travel with them, Driving any kind of vehicle. Hopefully we understand what kind of mentality we are dealing with now.

Discussion 19 : 16/09/2012 at 11:23 AM

'In every country where they are the majority they persecute the infidel.' This is not true. Sounds like you don't know about Malaysia, Bahrain, the UAE, Oman, Lebanon and Jordan. You'll find plenty of 'infidels' living in those countries who do not consider themselves persecuted.

Discussion 20 : 16/09/2012 at 10:30 AM

the mans input is welcomed to good muslims,but the problem lies with bad muslims,the extremist,who go around killing innocent rubber planters,teachers and others ,the only way to surpress these cowards is to eliminate them,made up mainly by foreigners from other countries,they are misguilded have only one rule which they try to enforce on others.this problem will not go away a handshake and a promise by some local insurgents who dont represent the real problems,the army needs to secure the area and have dialoge with local headsman to improve the lives and a better future

Discussion 21 : 16/09/2012 at 10:03 AM

"Mr Turki said that the protection of the human rights of Muslim minorities around the world is always the top priority of the MWL" "Asked about Thailand's southern insurgency, he said it is the responsibility of every country to contribute to or ensure peace" His visit is not about Thailand and the south at all. And the only thing he cares are the muslim minorities and their rights.

Discussion 22 : 16/09/2012 at 09:56 AM

َQuote:"Abdullah bin Abdul Mohsin said that the protection of the human rights of Muslim minorities around the world is always the top priority of the MWL" END of quote. 1st I hope you don't sleep at the seminar along with other Muslim religious leaders as usual on every MWL meetings YA Shiek, The countries you represent were the major financial supporters including your beloved Thaksin for the eruption in the south, Now all what is needed is to freeze that money supply and stop brainwashing your fellow Thai Muslims about The global United Islamic States.

Discussion 23 : 16/09/2012 at 09:45 AM

Religion is fine if you need it but don't inflict your learned set of values on others .

Discussion 24 : 16/09/2012 at 09:39 AM

It will be hard for non-Muslims to embrace Muslims as equals as long as the Muslims are willing to kill and bomb their neighbors. Now al-Turki arrives implying that he can create peace but also implying that it is up to Thailand to give into the Muslims' wishes. Why don't the Muslims stop killing, assimilate into Thai society, and live in peace? There is no more tolerant people in the world than Thais, but they expect to not be killed as a result of their tolerance.

Discussion 25 : 16/09/2012 at 09:32 AM

The "internationalisation" of the southern conflict goes against the expressed wishes of the head of the Army so I doubt that this conference will have any positive impact on the situation.

Discussion 26 : 16/09/2012 at 08:48 AM

"He said Muslim minorities should be assured the same access to equal rights as the majority groups in all countries." Just as Saudi Arabia protects the rights of other religions in its country.

Discussion 27 : 16/09/2012 at 08:32 AM

In every country where Moslems are a minority they preach peaceful coexistence. In every country where they are the majority they persecute the infidel.

Discussion 28 : 16/09/2012 at 07:51 AM

"He said Muslim minorities should be assured the same access to equal rights as the majority groups in all countries." While I applaud any efforts at peace, there are extremists who are NOT focused upon equal rights. These are those who kill teachers & monks & burn schools. They riot in countries (other than the USA) for a film made in the USA. It makes no sense. Also, these lightly guarded trucks & motorcycles are easy targets. Time to change this strategy.