Angry Muslims protest video at US embassy
Around 500 angry Thai Muslims staged a protest Tuesday afternoon in front of the US embassy in Bangkok amid heavy rain, deploring an anti-Islam video that has triggered a wave of demonstrations in the Middle East and beyond.
- Published: 19/09/2012 at 12:00 AM
About 200 city police were deployed to ensure security.
Protest leaders criticised the US over the film, while others shouted "Death to America" during the two-hour protest.
Al-Qaeda's branch in North Africa day called for attacks on United States diplomats and an escalation of protests against the video.
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In a statement, al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb praised the killing of Chris Stevens, the US envoy to Libya. The group threatened attacks in Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco and Mauritania, and condemned the US for "lying to Muslims for more than 10 years, saying its war was against terrorism and not Islam".
The group urged Muslims to pull down and burn American flags at embassies, and kill or expel US diplomats. Protests against the film are spreading and turned violent in Pakistan and Kashmir, while hundreds rallied in Indonesia and Thailand yesterday.
Jana Nalee, a Thai Muslim from Bangkok's Lat Phrao area, said he and his Muslim compatriots want the US and the film producer to apologise to Muslims.
"I personally have no grudges against Americans, but I want the US government and the film producer to take responsibility," he said. Mr Jana did not believe protests by Thai Muslims would be violent like in other countries.
National police chief Priewpan Damapong yesterday said he has instructed police to keep a close watch on the situation, particularly in Songkhla's Hat Yai district to prevent people with ill intentions from creating unrest.
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- Discussion 1 : 19/09/2012 at 07:59 PM
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Anger and passion or perhaps angry passion can lead even normally non-confrontational people down the path of ballistic violence. Can even happen in Thailand where an angry mob beats to death a person before they even understand his rationale.
I refer to a case where a mentally ill Thai man broke an Erawan (corner of Erawan Hyatt, Sukhumwit) and a mob killed him. That was someones brother, father, uncle or cousin, someone that could have simply missed his medication dose that day.
- Discussion 2 : 19/09/2012 at 05:47 PM
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Question for all to ponder: “Freedom of Expression”,a noble ideal, as defined in US Constitution gives the American the rights, even so far as to infringe on other people’s (non-American) core values and believes. Please vote “UP” if you agree with this statement.
- Discussion 3 : 19/09/2012 at 04:34 PM
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In Iran , Saudi , Iraq , Afghanistan or Pakistan they would be locked up or shot by now.
Amusing to see the earlier photos of women mixing with men. In Saudi or Afghanistan that's punishable by death in the name of their religion. Did someone pull that picture ?
IMO Islam is an old boys club controlled by bitter old men who keep creating new and more outrageous rules.
- Discussion 4 : 19/09/2012 at 03:45 PM
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No offense to muslims, but it is the action of an individual not the country. You can't hold a country responsible and start hurting their citizens. Which country should take responsibility for Al Qaeda and other muslim terrorist organizations? Should those muslim countries apologize too?
- Discussion 5 : 19/09/2012 at 03:26 PM
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Khun Jacksprat #30, don't you think that Marxism is just another religious belief? We, human beings, have to believe in something, haven't we?
- Discussion 6 : 19/09/2012 at 02:58 PM
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supermax disc#
I really think that is a poor analogy. You are comparing politics with religion. No one has right to burn and kill.
Why drag the Thai reds or yellows into this I'm sorry I dont see the analogy, m I missing something here?
- Discussion 7 : 19/09/2012 at 01:13 PM
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"I would expect and hope that Thais would become violent if the kingdom were to be attacked and occupied by a foreign power, and not just demonstrate peaceably." Just like in December 1941.
- Discussion 8 : 19/09/2012 at 01:06 PM
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Why are these rioters, because that is what they are, allowed to get away with it,Is it because the authorities do not want to get too involved less they inflame them more.If I were to burn a Thai flag my feet would not touch the ground.I find it impossible to think how these people fit into a civilized society they demonstrate animal instincts and the worst kind at that, Jackal springs to mind.
- Discussion 9 : 19/09/2012 at 01:06 PM
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"Karl Marx has said Religion is like opium for the people... Think about!" And he wanted to replace it with his religion-subtitute, communism, which was just as dogmatic and intolerant of other forms.
- Discussion 10 : 19/09/2012 at 01:02 PM
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Why should the US government take responsibilty for something it had absolutely nothing to do with? Its like asking the governments of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc to apologize and take responsibilty for the activities of Al Quaida and the Taliban. Mindless hypocracy.
- Discussion 11 : 19/09/2012 at 12:55 PM
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Can muslims please go away now? You don't play well with others and no one likes you. Why do you feel the need to always 'be there', starting violent protests, cutting people's heads off, blowing up little children and generally making the world a lot less safe. Here's an idea. Stay on your side and us civilized peoples will stay on ours. We'll continue to advance civilization and you can carry on your dream of reenacting the 7th century. Okie dokie people, sound good? Excellent. Seriously, anytime you want to go away would be a great time for us.
- Discussion 12 : 19/09/2012 at 12:28 PM
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Hi, it amazes me to see the muslims killing every time things dont go there way, is it all right for a muslim to kill at will, is there god a god of hate
- Discussion 13 : 19/09/2012 at 12:06 PM
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Save the world, ban all religions, live in peace!
- Discussion 14 : 19/09/2012 at 12:05 PM
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Thanks to the Muslims making such a big deal over nothing I will go watch the video now .Thanks for promoting it .LOL
- Discussion 15 : 19/09/2012 at 11:50 AM
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I looked the "movie" and found it rather stupid.
IMHO it just insults the producer and his kind.
Bad enough, protesting fanatics want to prove this guy and his stupid followers to be right.
- Discussion 16 : 19/09/2012 at 11:46 AM
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Khunbill : "Why is it when muslims do something stupid or insulting, Example Nigeria burning down churches on Christmas day and nobody protested and burnt the Nigerian embassies around the world. It couldn't be a a defference in civility could it?"
You should remember when the Red/UDD protesters burnt Bangkok. All leaders of this group of thugs live freely without any punishment... It'as look like Red/UDD and Muslims have the same right to do what they want, what they think. If we complain them they at once act violently....
- Discussion 17 : 19/09/2012 at 11:34 AM
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People in mobs protesting this film are just like sheep. Isolate any single person in this mob or any mob and I doubt you could get a reasoned argument why they are so bent on killing and destruction of non-muslims. As for wanting America to apologise how pathetic is that in light of the disgusting violence initiated by Muslim mobs. Violence seems to be the only way they know to express their opinions. If the protesters were mature and acted like adults who can accept criticism then the religion they claim to worship would perhaps have more credibility.
- Discussion 18 : 19/09/2012 at 11:30 AM
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Karl Marx has said Religion is like opium for the people... Think about !
- Discussion 19 : 19/09/2012 at 11:17 AM
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I have to wonder, how many of these people have been involved in the deaths of 5000 people in the south of Thailand. They have a lot of nerve..........
- Discussion 20 : 19/09/2012 at 11:00 AM
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When they interviewed the protesters, the people hadn't even watched the US, video clip put on YouTube? A religion of peace? Isn't it interesting that Muslims all around the world are proving to the world that which much of the world already thought?...That many Muslims are completely unreasonable concerning their religion. They are completely out of step with the modern world, the concept of freedom of speech, and the right of others to have opinions different than theirs.
- Discussion 21 : 19/09/2012 at 10:53 AM
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Disc 3:yes,but as ignorant as cattle.
- Discussion 22 : 19/09/2012 at 10:48 AM
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I think it is wonderful that to destroy a US flag these cats have to:
1. See it and recognize it.
2. Know what it represents.
3. Reach up to touch the hem of the flag of the greatest country in the world!
- Discussion 23 : 19/09/2012 at 10:38 AM
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This film maker was certainly up to mischief and he should be held accountable for his action, but he’s now an American citizen. Most Americans, even the political establishments on both sides, basically sided with him because of his rights of “Freedom of Expression” under the US Constitution, which protects Americans from any legal encumbrances. Americans are caught between a rock and a hard place. Muslims’ anger and actions are predictable; happens all the time when their religion is provoked. The pertinent question is whether we should consider some form of international law to make it illegal to demean any religion/cultures; otherwise incidents of this nature will be repeated again.
- Discussion 24 : 19/09/2012 at 10:25 AM
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There is no causal or logical connection between the US government and the party who produced and released this film (which was translated into Arabic by a Muslim). The US and Israel are scapegoats in this instance. The demonstrations here and elsewhere underscore a larger point that liberals and apologists tend to overlook. That being, if the governments in places like Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran had the infrastructure and respect for human rights to allow their peoples to create real lioves for themselves, then their populations would not be obsessed with religious fanaticism and channeling hate through God. Their own governments have failed them and they seem to have nothing else but a religion of anger and hate.
The US has nothing for which it must apologize.
- Discussion 25 : 19/09/2012 at 10:12 AM
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I think the film is funny, but in this 'free' world, I am not allowed to say it because some people might be offended and say I was blasphemous to their religion,then stone me to death.
- Discussion 26 : 19/09/2012 at 10:02 AM
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A childish film with a childish reaction. These riots do nothing but debase Islam, exactly what the film makers intended. These Moslem protesters do nothing but harm the credibility of the religion they profess to revere.
- Discussion 27 : 19/09/2012 at 09:48 AM
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Why is it when muslims do something stupid or insulting, Example Nigeria burning down churches on Christmas day and nobody protested and burnt the Nigerian embassies around the world. It couldn't be a a defference in civility could it?
- Discussion 28 : 19/09/2012 at 09:34 AM
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I do not think that these demonstrators particularly blame America for the blasted video. They simply wish to be counted among those who consider this kind of thing to be disgraceful. IMPORTANT!: Demonstrating does not equate to attacking. I have sometimes demonstrated against the actions of the US. And been called bad names for so doing.
As far as rioutous or violent demonstrations, as seen in Afghanistan, etc.: I would expect and hope that Thais would become violent if the kingdom were to be attacked and occupied by a foreign power, and not just demonstrate peaceably.
- Discussion 29 : 19/09/2012 at 09:24 AM
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Dear ‘protesters’: Try pulling this kind of cheap publicity stunt in Tehran, and see how far you get.
- Discussion 30 : 19/09/2012 at 07:52 AM
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"I want the US government and the film producer to take responsibility"
The film producer is the ONLY one responsible. The US cannot and should not be held responsible for every stupid thing that one of the citizens do. No country should be held accountable for the actions of individuals. I honestly don't know why this is so hard to understand.
- Discussion 31 : 19/09/2012 at 07:12 AM
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this is like saying that all thais are bad because one thai dissagrees with your opinions . american bashing for the purpose of getting a little attention?
- Discussion 32 : 19/09/2012 at 07:07 AM
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"I personally have no grudges against Americans, but I want the US government and the film producer to take responsibility," he said. Mr Jana did not believe protests by Thai Muslims would be violent like in other countries.
well should thailand apoigize and take responcibility when a thai citizen(with his oun rights under democratic government ) puts on video on youtube.do you as a thai muslim respect democracy . when one man does something. you have freedoms like americans under democracy .look me in the eye and tell me why your opinion is more special than (americans )easy to bash americans.show some backbone and explain why your opinion is greater than other human beings. think about it.
- Discussion 33 : 19/09/2012 at 06:46 AM
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Why not just use the comments section on Youtube?
- Discussion 34 : 19/09/2012 at 06:24 AM
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spiceman - they should, but then they wouldn't have an "excuse" to attack American embassies.
- Discussion 35 : 19/09/2012 at 05:59 AM
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At least these were likely real protesters who actually knew why they were there and not the rental kind that want 300 Baht a day and a color coded shirt.
- Discussion 36 : 19/09/2012 at 05:20 AM
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Khun Alex #1, are you suggesting they go to the Egyptian Embassy instead?
- Discussion 37 : 19/09/2012 at 04:27 AM
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All Muslims need to know this man Is not an American that made this movie. His name is Nakoula Nakoula from Egypt. Please google. Thailand, please don't be tricked into believing this is Americas fault.
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