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Discussion 1 : 23/10/2012 at 04:54 PM

Do we have a trainee editing these posts today. What's with all the meaningless banter in this thread?

Discussion 2 : 23/10/2012 at 04:18 PM

A correction to my last post, instead of D#23 I meant D#21 sorry for that.

Discussion 3 : 23/10/2012 at 04:10 PM

ref: 26 You are for sure not a girl and I am also for sure not a hater, you probably haven't got it that I was only reflecting what I read, did I evaluate anything? I really don't understand what you want with your rather irrational comments.

Discussion 4 : 23/10/2012 at 03:55 PM

Disc 15, Nangrongj is correct. This is a situation where it would be inpossible to win the hearts and minds of the people. This problem has been festering for too long and the insurgency is becoming stronger. Time for some real action.

Discussion 5 : 23/10/2012 at 03:53 PM

D#24 Thank you this is how you speak to a girl.

Discussion 6 : 23/10/2012 at 03:47 PM

Calling on state agencies to help the military and police win support from people in the south, is exactly what shouldn't be done and would only show weakness in dealing with the issue. Proper military training/planning conducted by professionals, that includes swift action against an agressor, is the only way you win the battle. Furthermore, citizens in the south would be reluctant to become involved in anytihng that places their lives in danger.

Discussion 7 : 23/10/2012 at 02:25 PM

D#23 What is unlogical is that you are a hater now let's forget all Arabs, put my country UAE in your mouth so I can speak.

Discussion 8 : 23/10/2012 at 02:11 PM

Khun Somnamna #21, it is well known among all western intelligent agencies that part of Saudi's "petrol dollars" is being channelled secretly into terrorist organizations, like Muslim Brotherhood, along with its derivatives, in various countries. However, we don't know how much of it has reached the terrorists in the Deep South. Do you think it is a sheer coincident that 15 out of 19 9/11-terrorists were from Saudi Arabia?

Discussion 9 : 23/10/2012 at 02:08 PM

Winning the hearts and minds is the right way to go, but these deranged thug terrors wont stop killing as they have shown and proved they just kill for the sake of killing and not only in Thailand but around the world. They are a cancer.

Discussion 10 : 23/10/2012 at 12:53 PM

ref. disc 21 I would suggest to you to read the posting first and answer after, there is nothing written about "Arab people" per se, it is written.. from the Arab Peninsular etc.

Discussion 11 : 23/10/2012 at 12:19 PM

ref: disc 21 You are unlogical, arn't Saudis Arab people? What you dont know is that when the whole really started in the south a few years ago, there was a very interesting article in the BP. The police were after a guy from the south who sat in the parliament for a southern region and was a know rebel sympathizer. They couldn't get hold of him since he fled to Malaysia, but when they searched his stuff they found that several millions of baht have been transmitted into his account over time, guess where that come from? The money came from Saudi welfare agencies who were 100% financed by the government so what is this?

Discussion 12 : 23/10/2012 at 12:05 PM

Take a thousand or so, of the legions of useless generals that hang around Bangkok, put some assault rifles in their hands and post them on the southern front-lines. Granted, most of them wouldn't know one end of the rifle from the other and as such would not make a difference in the military force on the ground. But if enough of THEM got blown away by insurgent bombs and snipers, the establishment in the capital might care enough to seek help from people that actually know what to do. Until now saving face seems more important than saving lives!

Discussion 13 : 23/10/2012 at 12:02 PM

D#18 blob123: This is insulting why do you have to say Arab supporting this? say it is Saudi which is true but not Arab, do you have a supporting info to claim we ALL ARAB finance the fight in the south? please bring it on.

Discussion 14 : 23/10/2012 at 11:47 AM

Spiceman is correct that the Thais need help in counter terrorism. The Thais are hopeless at trying to control crowds let alone areas of the country. I personally would like to see it annexed and given to them, then we can watch them starve to death slowly or let Malaysia take the burden. Sending a few police. part-time soldier and armed individuals into insurgent areas is beyond belief as thousands of weapons and ammunition have been stolen. The whole area needs to be under military (not police) control and until then nothing will change.

Discussion 15 : 23/10/2012 at 11:34 AM

What about the famous PENTAGON II set up by our super zorro Chalerm in last August ? As said the General Prayuth, the operations have to be thought at the spot not from a cosy office in Bangkok...

Discussion 16 : 23/10/2012 at 11:27 AM

The thing is rather simple, see the facts, Thais cant handle such conflicts. What is the result? Get outside help and get tough with the guys from the other side of the border plus the financiers from the Arab Peninsular. For a quick idea ask the Philippinos how they handled Mindano. It's the same thing here again they always refuse to take advice from others, they think they know it better which they dont as it clearly can be seen every day.

Discussion 17 : 23/10/2012 at 09:46 AM

I think it may take a long time to resolve this. If a dangerous plant was growing in Thailand, it would be easy to pull it out by the roots. If that plant had much longer roots that crossed into another country, there may be difficulty to get the roots removed.

Discussion 18 : 23/10/2012 at 09:41 AM

Khun Edlimym #3, actually, your suggestion is not a bad idea at all. If the job is too hard for Thai Military, why don't we outsource it to foreign mercenaries, like ex-Navy SEAL, or Russian Special Ops, and etc? Let's ask them how much it will cost to rid the Deep South of these murderous terrorists from hell, and then we can deduct it from the defense budget.

Discussion 19 : 23/10/2012 at 09:37 AM

You cannot win the hearts and minds of those with an alternative mindset, they have no intention of living a Thai life. This is no longer a police role, it is one for joint security forces. The approach has been reactive and lacking in intelligence. The only way to control if not resolve this is to approach it in the same manner the UK security forces did in Northern Ireland.

Discussion 20 : 23/10/2012 at 09:32 AM

@discussion 5 - "And my friend you don't know much Thai history." And neither do you. The Sultanate of Pattani (Patani) was a tributary state to Siam for centuries. It rebelled after the fall of Ayutthaya in 1767, but was reconquered 18 years later and has been under Thai control ever since. All the 1909 treaty did was acknowledge that. I was here during the 1970s and '80 and can verify that the far south was comparitively peaceful in those days. It began to be violent during Thaksin Shinatawatra's watch.

Discussion 21 : 23/10/2012 at 09:20 AM

The south's 'insurgents' should be identified for what they really are, Muslim extremists wanting to take over and install an Islamic state in the south of Thailand. Until whatever government is in place accepts this and takes action accordingly then these Muslim terrorists will keep murdering Buddhist Thais very day as they are doing with impunity.

Discussion 22 : 23/10/2012 at 09:16 AM

'Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday expressed concern over the latest ________________ and ordered all agencies involved to monitor the situation closely' - Fill in as required. Haven't I read this order before?.... You can cut and paste from other articles. At least it makes reporting/typing easier.

Discussion 23 : 23/10/2012 at 09:01 AM

this regime have for months ignored the cry for help by the deep south people and more concerned about whitewashing a fugitive,the islamic teerrorist have been running rings around a badly discipline police force,who at ground level,have had little ongoing intelligence, as they are not trusted by the locals as they also more concerned about their own scams,too many army chiefs and not enough well trained soldiers,and of course the lack of trust with this regime with the maasacrce in tak bai ,the drugs war in the north and the rioting in bangkok,l fear as there is no leadership or plan of action

Discussion 24 : 23/10/2012 at 08:28 AM

These murders aren't 'warriors' for a cause. They are killing shopkeepers, teachers and rubber plantation workers for what? They can prove no reason, except to use religion...they tried this in NI, and did they get anywhere? These cowards should do one of two things to win people other than drops, drunks and drug addict to there causes. 1, Group together on the battlefield and fight their cause in one big battle ..the winner gets his way. 2, Stop the killing and bombing become a party and fight your causes with words. Otherwise the government should pour the army in on mass, and move through each district containing each area. Sri Lanka knows

Discussion 25 : 23/10/2012 at 08:25 AM

Disc 5 - And my friend you don't know much Thai history. The problems in the Deep south started with the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909. Forty years before Thaksin was born. You may not like the man but it's totally unfair to blame him for all the ills of Thailand. Next we'll hear he's responsible for the extinction of Siam's dinosaurs and in a way he may, in the end, be remembered for just that.

Discussion 26 : 23/10/2012 at 08:04 AM

8 years.....5,000 + deaths and counting and now the Army are asking for help. They have to win hearts and minds in those communities and totally change their current policy as it is clearly not working. Alternatively asking for foreign experience on how to deal with insurgencies similar to the situation in the south is long overdue. For once, just once, don't worry about losing face or admitting your tactics are not working and get some help and advice.

Discussion 27 : 23/10/2012 at 08:03 AM

"Today, I am asking 17 ministries and 66 agencies concerned to help," Overkill as usual 83 different opinions?

Discussion 28 : 23/10/2012 at 07:52 AM

What a scary scenario,you dont know anything about anyone,this cowards just kill and kill.... for what??? Mr Taksin (he was a part of it and another coward) you didn´t know what you started in 2004, this have to end if there gona be any citizens left in the deep south, i think the country need help from anyone, try the UN it can bee worth it, before its to late.

Discussion 29 : 23/10/2012 at 06:54 AM

"Security agencies analyse the situation daily to predict where violence may occur" demonstrating, day after day, that those agencies completely fail. Understanding is indeed what is needed - not so much from "local residents", but from those responsible for totally ignoring the source, the reasons, the basis for the violence, as well as for misinforming the public. Hearts and souls? Not the strongest point of the army, I'd say.

Discussion 30 : 23/10/2012 at 05:55 AM

Even the previous so-called Govt cannot do a thing about it, let alone any other Govt. Just send in mercenaries and sweep every square metres of those troubled areas clean. Good luck..... Call the UN??

Discussion 31 : 23/10/2012 at 05:15 AM

If the army needs help they could transfer a few hundred generals, that don't do anything now but collect a pay check know, to the South. That ought to scare the bejeezus out of those insurgents.

Discussion 32 : 23/10/2012 at 03:52 AM

Yep, we desperately need help from experts in counterterrorism to come and teach us how to do counterterrorism, in order to get rid of these murderous terrorists from hell. Now, let see, who is the best of the bests in counterterrorism? The current Thai Govt? I don't think so! By the way, the first step in the right direction is to return that useless airships for a full refund.