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Discussion 1 : 26/10/2012 at 01:49 AM

Gen Prayuth said Thursday he did not mind the rally taking place but its organisers should adhere to democratic ideals and not speak of the army in an unfavourable way. Dear Gen. A demcroacy means they can speak negative about anything! Read some books pls.

Discussion 2 : 25/10/2012 at 09:49 PM

Gen P has a lot to say about non essential things but he is silent on why he is losing a war in Southern Thailand.

Discussion 3 : 25/10/2012 at 07:47 PM

I dont know how Gen Boonlert or anyone for that matter can even sit at the same table and have wine and lunch with Chalerm.

Discussion 4 : 25/10/2012 at 07:21 PM

dickemary #15, So true, I think Thomas Sowell nailed it on the head, he wrote, “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong”

Discussion 5 : 25/10/2012 at 07:15 PM

D 31, Khun Bill. Regarding a civil war, you could not be closer to the point. To be honest some pretty aggravating statements have been made, and a coup d'tat does appears imminent. Let us hope a bluff is being pulled.

Discussion 6 : 25/10/2012 at 06:09 PM

Dreaming to a coup for his Country and be proud to hate the democracy??? Thailand is not a banana republic but a great Country. Why some people want put it so down?

Discussion 7 : 25/10/2012 at 05:46 PM

I dont know how Chalerm or anyone for that matter can even sit at the same table and have wine and lunch with this guy. I honestly think another coup would cause a civil war.

Discussion 8 : 25/10/2012 at 05:37 PM

Why must all groups "remain peaceful and stay within the boundaries of the law", but the Red Shirts can do whatever they want, whenever they want?

Discussion 9 : 25/10/2012 at 04:35 PM

That a former (he is "former" isn't he?) army general can get away with making this statement is outrageous. These sorts of reckless statments do tremendous harm to Thailand. All political parties should strongly denounce this vieled threat to launch a coup and make a public committment that they will not support any government the militairy puts in place following a coup. This is a disgrace.

Discussion 10 : 25/10/2012 at 02:09 PM

Only in Thailand is the word coup is spoken as regularly as democracy. In other democratic countries, you can be assured that serious repercussions will fall on people who mention a coup. In this case, it is not only a mention but a organized rally to promote a coup and a blatant statement of intent by the leader. All the coups carried the same slogan of doing this for the good of the people but in reality coups have never solved but worsened the political situation. Thailand has so much economic potentials but as Lee KY recently spoke, repeated coups have created a lost of investors confidence and opportunities.

Discussion 11 : 25/10/2012 at 02:00 PM

Coup is indeed a bad thing that ruins democracy, irrespective it is a military coup, a judicial coup, a yellow coup or even a multi colour coup. Hope those coup lovers get this point by now.

Discussion 12 : 25/10/2012 at 11:10 AM

@nitnoi D19: "Seem to be compatible pair under influence of alcohol. Can they think straight?" Even when stone-cold sober, neither of them can think straight. They don't need alcohol to lose their wits.

Discussion 13 : 25/10/2012 at 10:53 AM

Disc 13, Mitrapaap. May I answer this ? I recall directly after the2011 elections which Peu Thai won by a majority, Mr Abhist made a statement to the new prime minister, Yingluck, that she would not last more than a few months in power. How wrong he was and probably lost a lot face because of his statement, which he is desperately trying to regain. Her popularity with the people, which still appears to be growing is the reason why she stays in power. The Democrats as they are will never get the power from the people to overcome the PT.

Discussion 14 : 25/10/2012 at 10:30 AM

Thailand has had 11 “successful” and 9 “unsuccessful” coup efforts in the 20th century but the truth is that the anti-corruption talk used by most coup-makers does not match the reality. Corruption is now greater than ever. A “successful” coup only ever makes two real changes, it weakens respect for the law and shows that the constitution has little reason to be respected.

Discussion 15 : 25/10/2012 at 10:01 AM

These forum comments are an interesting example of the extreme spreads of opinions that can exist within groups, in fact the only uniform opinion (just one exception), was that coups are a bad thing. Well that's a relief, I hope the army agrees.

Discussion 16 : 25/10/2012 at 09:14 AM

There will be many such pictures. Sonthi Boonyakarin, Panalop etc. All against Thaksin and then skip to the Thaksin bandwagon. This protest is a farce, planned by the two people you see in the image. Gauge the mood of the military, show the people that no one really wants to topple the government. Expect less than 5,000 people to attend. What a waste of a wonderful stadium.

Discussion 17 : 25/10/2012 at 09:04 AM

"If you condemn the army, you are condemning not only Gen Prayuth but also 200,000 soldiers. If you do that, do not expect anything from us" In other words, if you do not do that,then, expect something from us. General Prayuth's public statements can really be funny.

Discussion 18 : 25/10/2012 at 08:56 AM

If only the army could do what they ate trained and paid to do, to protect the country and its people. They have been totally incompetent, even worse that useless in dealing with matters in the south but they believe they can run the country. A coup brings shame and embarrassment to Thailand, Anyone insinuating or suggesting a coup to a crowd is instigating an act of terrorism.

Discussion 19 : 25/10/2012 at 08:41 AM

If he was not already retired, he should have been fired. In civilized societies a coup has the same, if not worse, perception as man-slaughter or murder. In some countries you could even get the death penalty for it. A coup is a straight attack on democracy, so against the will of the people.

Discussion 20 : 25/10/2012 at 08:37 AM

Trying to win an election with PT is like trying to convince someone they should go to school when there is a guy selling grades hiding behind the school .PT has everyone suckling handouts paid for by you the reader .This cycle has no where to go but down .

Discussion 21 : 25/10/2012 at 08:24 AM

No politician in either party wants a coup because that becomes the end of the corruption money train for all politicians. As an ordinary citizen who has no political ties or favoritism to any Thai politics, I have to believe that during the last coup, from an ordinary working class citizen point of view, the country was able to run itself quite normally. The alarming rate which billions are disappearing due to corruption to feed all the former 111 and current PT politicians is bound to bankrupt Thailand sooner or later. Most policians have no legal way to make enough money to pay for the kind of power they need to remain in politics.

Discussion 22 : 25/10/2012 at 08:08 AM

Seem to be compatible pair under influence of alcohol. Can they think straight?

Discussion 23 : 25/10/2012 at 08:05 AM

I have lived and worked for over 20 years abroad before returning to Thailand in 2006. Since that time I believe I have been abducted and moved to a different planet. Where I lived previously Generals did not speak off coups or ousting the government. I can’t see the AEC work since that requires elected governments and not imposed rulers by military force.

Discussion 24 : 25/10/2012 at 08:03 AM

D13 - Because a judicial coup is just as rotten as a military coup. And it causes more trouble than it is worth. If you want to get rid of the current government then vote them out. Win the hearts and minds of the voters.

Discussion 25 : 25/10/2012 at 08:02 AM

the problem from the very beggining was how did this regime get away with vote buying and fraudulent irregularities in the election,l have no doubt the turnout in the north was 99.9%,compared to 65% around the country,every name on the voting list in north voted,,this is one of the channels to pursue,something legally or peoples power have to stop this shambolic,incomptent and corupt dictatorial regime thats tells white lies and thinks its acceptable

Discussion 26 : 25/10/2012 at 07:47 AM

Disc 9, (Mr ?) Spiceman. Your statement, "The Love of God (not money) conquers all, OK?" Regarding the context of your opinion, I am quite old now and regret never seeing evidence of this in my life. By all accounts I do not think neither of the parties nor protesters here believe that either. In fact it would probably hold for the whole of Thailand.

Discussion 27 : 25/10/2012 at 07:19 AM

The deputy minister (in charge of police and many other things if I'm not wrong) of the ruling party has lunch with the organizer of a rally against the ruling party to discuss the rally (over a glass of red wine, of course). I don't like the first and I don't know the latter, but: This is the way grown ups do. Using red wine, not red shirts. We should see more of this (discussions, not red wine) as this is how democracy works.

Discussion 28 : 25/10/2012 at 07:10 AM

bkposter D2: if Abbhisit was so power hungry as you suggest, then tell me why the Dems did not get PT disbanded long time ago? There is nothing easier than that, 'Thaksin thinks Phuea Thai does' is more than enough to get rid of PT in the blink of an eye. So why do the Dems let PT stay in power? Tell me please!

Discussion 29 : 25/10/2012 at 06:52 AM

"Do not put pressure on officers and criticize me negatively. That would be disrespectful." """ Doesn't that sound like a threat? Since when is there a law that you cannot criticize the army? Is that included in the dreaded 112? Sounds more like the law of hot flying lead.

Discussion 30 : 25/10/2012 at 06:37 AM

Discussion 2 :: How do you know Khun Abhisit will "throw his public principles [not principals by the way !!!] in the rubbish bin" ??? Where do you get this "factual" information from ??? How can you expect others to take you seriously when you clearly do not have clear and unequivocal facts to back your comments up ??? It never ceases to amaze me that so many people "know for sure" what someone [eg in this case Abhisit] means or will do ??? I wouldn't mind if comments like this were prefaced with an "I think" or "in my opinion" ...

Discussion 31 : 25/10/2012 at 06:24 AM

Coup = "Been there... done that... ? benefit in the long run." bikeme: One need not be 'red' to oppose all military intervention affecting an elected government. Speaking for myself, I support Thailand's efforts toward democratic maturity. meme: try living in North Korea or Syria. You have no idea of what a 'dictatorship' is all about!

Discussion 32 : 25/10/2012 at 06:11 AM

After more than a dozen coups in the last 80 years since the beginning of our supposedly democratic rule, it should be clear to all that they are not the answer to Thailand's problem. Unless, you want Thailand to go backward in time like what Myanmar has gone through. Politics is the art of persuading others to agree with your point of view, not rolling tanks on the streets to depose a democratically elected Govt. I would suggest the good people of the rest of the country to try to win the hearts of E-Saan people over. The Love of God (not money) conquers all, OK?

Discussion 33 : 25/10/2012 at 05:39 AM

Gen Boonlert should be arrested and question because he said clearly that he wanted a coup. People must stay alert even the army Chief wanted out of this episode. The democratic principle is new being held hostage.

Discussion 34 : 25/10/2012 at 05:38 AM

I hope that there isn't a coup because it will enable Thaksin to play the "See? I'm the poor victim again" card, and his support and Red Shirt mobs will only increase. I am for leaving him in power and letting his corruption become so bad that the voters reject him forever. (Unfortunately) The Thais have to feel the pain that results from a corrupt government before they will stop saying corruption is such a wonderful thing.

Discussion 35 : 25/10/2012 at 05:30 AM

"Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said yesterday the Pitak Siam group has the democratic right to hold its rally on Sunday as long as it remains peaceful and stays within the boundaries of the law."...unlike her Thaksin sponsored UDD allies when they set up a barricaded tent City in the middle of the road in Bangkok,armed themselves and refused to obey any laws. Thailand remains a society perverted by the mainly corrupt Army Generals,who take every business opportunity whilst supposedly serving in the military and then move seemlessly into politics in highly placed positions.The same applies to Police Generals.Third World conditions.

Discussion 36 : 25/10/2012 at 05:18 AM

Big Soldier has put retired little soldier in his place. hehehe

Discussion 37 : 25/10/2012 at 05:18 AM

Most civilized and ratificed democratic constitutions prohibit the use of force to overthrow a legitimately elected government. You can protest, advertise against, vote against etc.

Discussion 38 : 25/10/2012 at 04:29 AM

Come on really who would a coup benefit, surely not the people? It's just another group of politician's friends and their cronies itching to get their 30% again, its a pathetic excuse to say a coup would help Thai democracy when at present democratic rules aren't followed by all concerned.

Discussion 39 : 25/10/2012 at 03:58 AM

"Meanwhile, former prime minister and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said his party does not support a coup." This should be preceded with the word "publicly" Mr Abhisit is fully aware that his party has little chance to get control any other way. He said the same thing in 06, but was happy to get control and a little thing like illegality did not seem to get in his way then, and if the chance arose today he would throw his "public" principals in the rubbish bin and take control of the cash cow again.