Govt shrugs off protest as waste of time

Security is being stepped up at the Royal Turf Club in the Nang Loeng area for today's anti-government rally organised by the Pitak Siam group.

Metropolitan Police Division 1 has provided support for Nang Loeng police station by deploying 450 policemen at the venue and preparing another 150 as a back-up.

Pol Maj Gen Wicharnwat Borirakkul, commander of Metropolitan Police Division 1, said local police would be deployed inside the race track while those mobilised by the division would maintain order around the venue.

Security checkpoints on roads adjacent to the Royal Turf Club have been set up since late last night to prevent activity by "third hand" elements, he said.

Police will move to their positions at about 7am, three hours before the rally takes place.

Pol Maj Gen Wicharnwat has estimated about 2,000 people will join the rally, while the organisers, led by retired Gen Boonlert Kaewprasit, expect a crowd of more than 10,000.

The Pitak Siam movement has enlisted support from a number of groups including the Dhamma Army which is closely linked with Maj Gen Chamlong Srimuang, a yellow shirt leader.

Among the speakers are supporters of the yellow shirt People's Alliance for Democracy including Surapong Chainam, a former Thai ambassador; Gen Pathompong Kesornsuk, former chief adviser to the Supreme Command; Seri Wongmontha, a prominent political critic; and Sqn Ldr Prasong Soonsiri, former secretary-general of the National Security Council.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung doubted that the rally would draw enough people to overthrow the Yingluck administration.

He said the organisers were shunned by people in the Northeast.

"They love former prime minister Thaksin [Shinawatra] and they themselves voted for Ms Yingluck as the prime minister," he said.

Mr Chalerm also urged those who were plotting a rally to unseat the government to think twice.

"No matter how many times you try to shoo us away, we always come back. It would be better to call off the campaign so it won't hurt business and tourism," he said.

Defence Minister Sukumpol Suwanatat said yesterday no soldiers would be needed at the rally. He was confident the police could handle the situation.

He also called on the media to tone down its reporting of the rally so that there would be no problems and people would disperse peacefully.

Sunisa Lertpakhawat, deputy spokesperson for the Pheu Thai Party, asked the rally organisers to respect the rights of those who will not be joining the rally.

Ms Sunisa cited a Suan Dusit Poll of 1,318 people carried out from Oct 23-26 in which about 44.4% of respondents said Pitak Siam lacked sufficient reason to hold an anti-government rally at this time.

Most of those who disapproved saw the rally as a political move to pressure the government and called for negotiation as a tool to resolve conflicts.

About 45.8% of the respondents also said they believed the rally would not bring the government to its knees.

Meanwhile, Pheu Thai yesterday rejected the Democrat Party's claim that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra was trying to avoid a planned censure debate.

Ms Yingluck is scheduled to make a number of overseas trips in November. The prospective date for the no-confidence debate is Nov 26-27.

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Discussion 1 : 28/10/2012 at 06:54 PM
D7@ringmaster The main differences were that Obama is an experienced politician, he was elected, and not selected by a cabal, he worked his way across the USA and went live on TV in debates. While some people may say he is a puppet of the...... put your own words here he does not have a convicted criminal brother outside the USA telling him what to do. He is usually in the senate or house, sorry I am English and know little of the way the USA is governed, and is actively involved in running the country. To my knowledge few members of the house or senate are under investigation for criminal charges and NONE have immunity with the house i
Discussion 2 : 28/10/2012 at 06:53 PM
Judging the photos of the rally, if you remove the "Monks" of Chamlong and the students sent by their parents (the poors), the "legitimate" rally pro dictatorship is far to be full. deceiving... but reassuring for Thailand.
Discussion 3 : 28/10/2012 at 06:42 PM
#25, bangmodker, your sentence is amazing. The Yellows/dems, last year, would make a war for some square meters, they sent a spy in Cambodia and now you want to remove a large part of Thailand??? Some Thai people think they are more Thai than the others while others want to reduce Thailand to the only Bangkok. Fortunately, only a so small part.
Discussion 4 : 28/10/2012 at 06:38 PM
This is not the way to go about changing things. IMHO the best thing that could happen would be to have a new party formed by some academic types and focus their energies on getting support and backing by some heavy hitters before the next elections take place. This new party should not include anyone that has been involved in previous government post and they should be serious about abolishing corruption, focus on a good education for all, and abolish the MP immunity law.
Discussion 5 : 28/10/2012 at 04:27 PM
Disc# 22 Thats the 1%. Hilliary Clinton seldom knows what she is talking about anyway, but point taken. Those things you mention have nothing to do with the polictical situation in Thailand, but the 1% doesnt care its the food, beaches cheap women, unfriendly taxi drivers on and on and on all the good things like you said
Discussion 6 : 28/10/2012 at 03:02 PM
The REDs always counter a protest with a protest whenever the opponent of the government staged a public protest. Is this an intimation tactic to instill fear and/or diversion tactic to distract public attention? The UDD leaders, in the past, had always advocated the rights to “peaceful” public protests but why are they so much against their opponents for exercising their rights? Ultimately, it’s the collective will of the people who will decide the fate of the government.
Discussion 7 : 28/10/2012 at 02:06 PM
Return the Isaan provinces to Laos and Cambodia. They are of no use whatsoever.
Discussion 8 : 28/10/2012 at 01:39 PM
Judging by the article and the picture it would appear that the BP is affiliated towards the Red shirts.Why no pictures of the legitimate rally.
Discussion 9 : 28/10/2012 at 01:35 PM
To peacefully demonstrate is a persons right in a democracy especially when something is so blatantly wrong with the way the country is being run.
Discussion 10 : 28/10/2012 at 01:22 PM
D19: khunbill: You're wrong. The world knows where and what Thailand is. Good food, nice beaches, cheap girls, cheating taxi drivers, unfriendly immigration officials, corruption all over. Did I forget any quality? Guess one doesn't need to know more. Whatever the government in charge - PTP, DEM, Military - who cares. The world can do business with Thailand - everything is OK and no need to investigate any further. Can you remember Hillary Clinton praising the democracy here? LOL
Discussion 11 : 28/10/2012 at 12:36 PM
- I'm surprised to see the red shirt rally picture in an article that is supposed to be about the Pitak Siam rally. - Maybe I shoud read it several times, as I haven't found WHEN that red shirt rally has taken place. - if a Suan Dusit Poll of 1,318 people says that about 44.4% of respondents said Pitak Siam lacked sufficient reason to hold an anti-government rally, then Chalerm should be worrid and think about how to fix this until the next election.
Discussion 12 : 28/10/2012 at 12:21 PM
Disc 10, wvavn. You didn't explain why you think this is the most useless government in Thai history, I wonder if you really do have a reason. But there are millions of Thais who have proven that they believe it is one of the best.
Discussion 13 : 28/10/2012 at 11:47 AM
I find it quite amuzing that some of the commentators thing Thailand is becoming or is the laughing stock of the world. 99% of the world has no idea whats going on in Thailand,dont know who Yingluck is or Thaksin for that matter and think its an island off the coast of china,
Discussion 14 : 28/10/2012 at 11:22 AM
Khun Oldthaihand #11, if that what it will take, so be it! In the long run, Thailand will become better off when the more prosperous half of the country invest their time, treasures, and talents to slowly but surely lifts E-Saan people out from poverty. With that alternative, TS will be starved out of his opportunity to steal any more money from hard-workding taxpaying like us.
Discussion 15 : 28/10/2012 at 11:12 AM
agree wakeupnow its laughable to suggest,middle aged people holding a rally on a quiet locacation,yet violent seeking red mobs drive around by the thousands causing traffic mayhem and disorder to tax paying people going about their daily job ,laughable,double standard and becoming the laughing stock all around the world,step down this reneagde of a dictorial regime for the sake of decency and demorcracy
Discussion 16 : 28/10/2012 at 10:25 AM
"Sunisa Lertpakhawat, deputy spokesperson for the Pheu Thai Party, asked the rally organisers to respect the rights of those who will not be joining the rally." My dear, where were you in 2010, this sounds so empty from your mouth.
Discussion 17 : 28/10/2012 at 10:15 AM
Chalerm said "No matter how many times you try to shoo us away, we always come back. It would be better to call off the campaign so it won't hurt business and tourism," The 1,000+ car caravan of red shirts cruising around Saturday, which brought traffic to a virtual stand still in many areas of Bangkok -- THAT is much better for business and tourism than holding a rally at a remote site. Actions speak louder than words. Why can't protests be held somewhere that does not interfere with the daily lives of regular people?
Discussion 18 : 28/10/2012 at 10:15 AM
Disc #10 Remember the coward military has to wait until Yingluck leaves the country for some purpose as did as her brother before they can stage a coup
Discussion 19 : 28/10/2012 at 10:07 AM
"Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung doubted that the rally would draw enough people to overthrow the Yingluck administration." Overthrowing a democratically elected government is treason, as illegal as a coup. Arrest the leaders & cool things off!
Discussion 20 : 28/10/2012 at 09:57 AM
I really think that the support expected will not be envisaged, but care does need to be taken what is said at this rally. Due to the already unstable conditions in Thailand, a civil war could ensue, especially if the army are deployed. If a coup d'tat is instigated, then Thailand has been failed again by those who think they know better. It will cost the country and population dearly. Again !!!!
Discussion 21 : 28/10/2012 at 09:55 AM
spiceman The only way to win the "hearts and minds of E-Saan people" is to do what Thaksin and his cronies have always done; give them unearned freebies and buy their votes. That's how the TRT were elected and how their proxy parties were elected.
Discussion 22 : 28/10/2012 at 09:42 AM
Finally there is a breathe of fresh air in Thailand. The military should have acted long before this rally to remove this most useless government in the whole of Thai history.
Discussion 23 : 28/10/2012 at 09:23 AM
Thailand desperately needs an opposition based more broadly on the aspirations of all Thais, untainted by the events of 2010 and have the ability to oppose the government through compromise, without the option of relying on the constitution court to do their bidding. If an opposition to PTP is not found then the alternate outcome for Thailand is a one party state, of the likes we see in Cambodia. A military dictatorship is not an option.
Discussion 24 : 28/10/2012 at 08:54 AM
Any government formed as a result of a coup will never have any legitimacy. They should spend their time trying to win the election not taking over the government by force of arms. They can only win by winning the minds of the masses, not by making martyrs of their brothers and sisters.
Discussion 25 : 28/10/2012 at 08:37 AM
oldairman, I suppose technically you are correct. However, Yingluck was number 1 on her party list and she was front and center leading PT's campaign. Barring some last minute wild deal - most people voting PT knew they were voting for Yingluck to be PM (or for Abhisit not to be PM). Of course if we follow your reasoning we could say that only 365 people voted Obama into the US Presidency in 2008.
Discussion 26 : 28/10/2012 at 08:24 AM
If another coup happens, lets hope that they remain in power until the country can field honest people to run the country, and all those who are milking the country dry, are brought to justice and made to repay every baht they have taken.
Discussion 27 : 28/10/2012 at 08:05 AM
@#2 you missed out NEUTRAL polls .... or is it not included??
Discussion 28 : 28/10/2012 at 07:32 AM
Quote Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung doubted that the rally would draw enough people to overthrow the Yingluck administration. He said the organisers were shunned by people in the Northeast. "They love former prime minister Thaksin [Shinawatra] and they themselves voted for Ms Yingluck as the prime minister," he said. Actually less than 300 people voted for Yingluck to be Prime Minister and all of them were PTP MPs. Also Yingluck has never stood for election as she is a party list MP. Quote Mr Chalerm also urged those who were plotting a rally to unseat the government to think twice. "No matter how many times you try to s
Discussion 29 : 28/10/2012 at 04:54 AM
Today I am go to temple to pray for peace. I think it better use of my time then to go to start all this problem about politic again. Better to make the merit then to make hate, chai mai ka?
Discussion 30 : 28/10/2012 at 04:15 AM
Ms Sunisa cited a Suan Dusit Poll of 1,318 people carried out from Oct 23-26 in which about 44.4% of respondents said Pitak Siam lacked sufficient reason to hold an anti-government rally at this time. This shows that 65.6% (the majority) of people think there is sufficient reason!!!
Discussion 31 : 28/10/2012 at 03:56 AM
Yes, another coup then what? We can have a million more coups and each time, PTP will still end up winning election afterward. So, what's the use? He has better luck to try to figure out how to win more hearts and minds of E-Saan people than PTP, then election victory will come naturally. Other than that, it's just a waste of time!

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