Suthep tells crowds 'prepare to fight on'

"We can celebrate, but please do not get carried away," protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban told the demonstrators at Government Complex on Tuesday.

He was referring to the "partial victory" he claimed had been achieved by anti-government street rallies that begun 34 days ago.

"This is a victory but it's not a decisive victory," he added.

Several thousands of his supporters jammed the complex on Chaeng Wattana Road and more at Democracy Monument after they easily occupied Government House and the Metropolitan Police Bureau hours earlier.

He praised them for their relentless efforts to fight tear gas, and water cannon and rubber bullet shots in trying to lay siege to the two key targets of the demonstrations - one symbolising the power of police siding with the "Thaksin regime" and another signifying the centre of the administration.

"We seized them with our hands," he said.

But Mr Suthep reminded the crowds that the rallies must go on until the Shinawatra family is no longer involved in Thai politics.

The self-proclaimed secretary-general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee made clear that the resignation of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, or the dissolution of parliament, would not be enough to end the protests, which he said would go on until the "Thaksin influence" is swept from the country.

"Our determination is to wipe out the 'Thaksin regime' from the country," he said.

The veteran politician predicted that Ms Yingluck would step down or declare a snap poll by dissolving the House of Representatives and attempting to garner support by blaming protesters for continuing their street campaign and for stopping the country from returning to normal.

"A dissolution of parliament does not mean anything for us," he went on.

Ms Yingluck's resignation would simply clear the way for another Thaksin associate to run the country and a new election would see the same group of MPs return to parliament through vote-buying, he said.

"We have come this far and that will not be a waste," he said. "The tyrants must be completely rid."

The protest leader called for patience from the crowd in achieving their final goal. "It will take time for us because we have only hearts and speakers. We will put this effort in once and for all, so that when we go home, we will go without doubts," he said.

The rallies will resume after Dec 5, he added. 

Demonstrators and police greeted each other during Tuesday's peaceful anti-government protests, in sharp contrast to the violence and teargas on Monday. (Bangkok Post photos)

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Discussion 1 : 04/12/2013 at 09:25 PM
I seriously doubt whether the Reds will come to Bangkok again. They realise now that the people of the Capital are "as mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore"!
Discussion 2 : 04/12/2013 at 08:23 PM
Can you honestly pretend Thaksin's dictatorship-in-the-make is 'democratic'? Does the abuse of one of(!) the democratic principles: 'one man, one vote', through vote buying and coercion, not irremediably lead to the usurpation of power? Wouldn't it be the duty of all citizens to remove such a system by all means available, even un-democratic ones when needed, in the hope to restore, or, here, create 'democracy'? Which planet do you come from?
Discussion 3 : 04/12/2013 at 07:34 PM
Do you mean the law is the law when it concerns the democrats and Suthep? Or do you mean the law is the law but not for one selfish man?
Discussion 4 : 04/12/2013 at 07:17 PM
So Mr. Caralo would like to wait another 2 years to give the majority a chance to get something back for their sold votes.. In 2 years nothing will be left and Thailand will be bankrupt. But PT businessmen will have so much money in their pockets to buy votes for another 10 elections. Jinjutha with your 3 comments , I have to confess that somebody hired me, it was my conscious. Don't mix it up, I did not write "Thaksin where are you."
Discussion 5 : 04/12/2013 at 04:49 PM
Lets hope that the two break will allow good sense to prevail and that Suthep will not be able to further damage the Thai people and economy. In short, that these ridiculous and embarrassing protests will not resume.
Discussion 6 : 04/12/2013 at 12:57 PM
Of all the politicians in Thailand, Mr. Suthep is the most ridiculous one.
Discussion 7 : 04/12/2013 at 10:50 AM
What a confused world! Though I like his aim of uprooting the system in allowing the unjust to perpetuate.
Discussion 8 : 04/12/2013 at 10:40 AM
"police [..] answerable only to the present government" - not at all, the role of the police is to uphold the rule of law, to serve the *people* not the government. (whichever government it may be) Though I agree with the rest of your post.
Discussion 9 : 04/12/2013 at 10:16 AM
1,00,500 of eligible voters in bkk voted for the PT party as compared to 1,200,000 for the democrat, thats basically half and half.. its just a MYTH that the bkk elites voted only for DM and only the rural poors voted for the PT party.........the main reason why Thaksin and the PT party been so succefull is the fact that they been able to capture BOTH THE POORS AND THE RICHS whereas the DM was able to capture only the latter one... unfortunately the medias here and overseas have been oversimplying things and portraying it as a class struggle when in reality its not,.... the reality is this is a battle between democracy and dictatorship!
Discussion 10 : 04/12/2013 at 10:16 AM
Makes me laugh every time I hear this complaining 'the other side will win because the people have sold their votes'. 'The people' get exactly what they deserve then.
Discussion 11 : 04/12/2013 at 09:58 AM
@djay I agree. Protesting against a sitting government is a valuable part of democracy. But trying to disrupt the government, invading and occupying government buildings and asking the army to remove the government by force is not part of democracy.
Discussion 12 : 04/12/2013 at 09:57 AM
You just disqualified the whole political system in Thailand, but you are absolutely right :-)
Discussion 13 : 04/12/2013 at 09:52 AM
You lose in the election, you lose in Parliament, you failed to challenge through the House of Representatives, you engage street protests and you call it democracy. That doesn't make sense. Feel pity to see Thai democracy is being destroyed by Democrats.
Discussion 14 : 04/12/2013 at 09:09 AM
You are very right, ... but if it happens, no one will be left to take any political post in Thailand.
Discussion 15 : 04/12/2013 at 09:00 AM
Firstly, now that the protests are over, Suthep should be arrested then the democrat party could reform and join the forum on political reform. Just take it on the chin, dear boy, the law is the law we can't have angry mobs running around dictating to us
Discussion 16 : 04/12/2013 at 08:53 AM
Suthep and his supports will have to take it on the chin, in order for Thailand to move forward, the law is the law not for one selfish man.
Discussion 17 : 04/12/2013 at 08:42 AM
Maybe it's peopel like you who should work out what democracy actually means. Being able to protest against the sitting government is a key component of democracy.
Discussion 18 : 04/12/2013 at 08:23 AM
for Thailand to move forward,firstly all politicans must be clean to take office,those who abuse their power,or other misdemeanor ,whilst in office ,banned for life,same applies in local council or civil servant,then the police needs to be reform,answerable only to the present government,no serving police generals or military generals should become politically involved,and equal justice to all,corruption stop progress,and nothing is achieved, to serve is a duty,not to get rich
Discussion 19 : 04/12/2013 at 08:12 AM
I would recommend some of the younger citydwellers on foodstamps just desturbing the next generation here, tried to find payed work outside Thailand.
Discussion 20 : 04/12/2013 at 08:09 AM
"Our determination is to wipe out the 'Thaksin regime' from the country," How very democratic.......? When will these protesters work out what democracy actually means, you lost the election, get over it......
Discussion 21 : 04/12/2013 at 08:06 AM
Yes I agrees, I wonder what this ex-politician has install after this so call tyrannical leader Ms Yingluck government is over thrown. And wether you pro government or not, no matter what political party you vote for there will always be someone that would not be happy with the government in power. As for calling the government a tyrant regime, this government was voted in by the people. So the only one acting like a tyrant now is the so call leader Mr Suthep. Plus both parties buy votes, even in my country Australia.
Discussion 22 : 04/12/2013 at 07:09 AM
Suthep has some screws loose upstairs. This will never work. He's basically trying to kill democracy because his party can't win. No one will trust Thailand if this happens. If you look up his political past, it isn't very clean. It also involves him cheating poor people out of land.
Discussion 23 : 04/12/2013 at 06:55 AM
The EU and US should get there own houses in order before publicly supporting others. It was only a couple of months ago that the US 'shut down' because of infighting and the EU can't say criticize or support anyone when Greece has been crippled with demonstrations for months.
Discussion 24 : 04/12/2013 at 06:46 AM
Still doesn't explain any detail at all and how you gonna to reform if you are able to obtain power? What types of the regime? People Council will never work. Because you will be end up where you start it. And than country will never be stable. The more this continues the worse and worse their economies will get until they have no economy at all and no jobs and no way back out of the mess that they have created for themselves.
Discussion 25 : 04/12/2013 at 06:46 AM
How elsecould it have got started. Most of the earlier protesters were fragmented groups with no real leadership. Say what you like about Suthep he rounded them up and got them all moving in the same direction together. Should he become the leader of the "Peoples Party"? In my opinion, no, because he is also one of the dinosaurs that hold Thailand back. Who SHOULD be the new leader is something else but there doesn't seem to be anyone on the horizon yet.
Discussion 26 : 04/12/2013 at 06:44 AM
The EU and the USA have given their support to the government, if a few wealthy people use their paid thugs to overthrow a democratically elected government they'd better expect sanctions that will cripple the country.
Discussion 27 : 04/12/2013 at 06:00 AM
have one question "who is the tyrants here at the moment?" As Suthep said "Our determination is to wipe out the 'Thaksin regime' from the country," "We have come this far and that will not be a waste," he said. "The tyrants must be completely rid." By the Oxford Dictionary definition of a Tyrant is- 1a cruel and oppressive ruler: •a person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way: • a ruler who seized absolute power without legal right For better or worst his sister Yingluck. So isn't the action that Suthep is now illegally acting as a tyrant in order to ouster a government that voted in.
Discussion 28 : 04/12/2013 at 04:56 AM
My only warning is watch Mr Suthep. He is a Wolf in sheeps clothing. You have to ask why is he leading this movement? What is in this for him. I don't trust him more than anyone else. He's just another power, money hungry political pawn.
Discussion 29 : 04/12/2013 at 04:54 AM
Thailand and democracy are just two words muddled together. Thailand is a family run dictatorship and has been for many years and until people realize that nothing will change. If they called snap elections the dictatorship would win again and the merry go round would start again. I remember speaking to my wife when YS was first elected and she stated to me that only trouble will follow, the only thing that has surprised her is that its taken 2 years to come to a head.
Discussion 30 : 04/12/2013 at 04:33 AM
I think your missing the big picture here,i like most don't care for the present administration but i also believe that in a free democracy you have elections and wait until the next election to toss out the government if you are not content with the work that they did,you don't try to hold the country hostage to get what you want. Governments should be elected not put in place by the Army.
Discussion 31 : 04/12/2013 at 03:23 AM
does not matter who is running the country,as the 1 big big problem with thailand is no 1 respects the rules of law.
Discussion 32 : 04/12/2013 at 03:03 AM
As a foreigner, I think this is a big joke in Thailand. If you admit democracy, then all should depend on votes. If you do not like the current government, vote against it next time! Not refuse to accept it simply because you cannot win by voting, which simply means that you are minority, then you cannot represent people.
Discussion 33 : 04/12/2013 at 01:56 AM
The poor and uneducated were manipulated by Thaksin and his cronies, but the rich and educated elites were manipulated by Suthep and the Democrat Party and their cronies. No wonder Thailand is stuck and going nowhere! I want neither one of them. Please give me better choices.
Discussion 34 : 04/12/2013 at 01:02 AM
The Western lobbyists that Thaksin has backing him have been caught writing fake reviews, scientific papers, planting news stories in what people think are reputable newspapers, and yes, 24/7 trolling comment sections with specific talking points. When guys who usually don't even "like" their own comments get 100's of likes for their drivel, something is amidst.
Discussion 35 : 04/12/2013 at 01:01 AM
Suthep dont encourage people to fight on, even if you got what you wanted, like few years ago, the reds will come to bangkok and cause more trouble. Just wait 2 years for the election, but come up with a policy to win people's heart, and if you loose...dont cry like a baby and stage another rally. Coz if u grab 'power' the reds will grab it back, with vengeance and more violence.
Discussion 36 : 04/12/2013 at 12:54 AM
Prime Minister Yingluck I believe doesn't want to kill any anti-government protesters. It's the right of every Thai to protest as long as peaceful, respect the rights of others as well and must be within the bounds of the law. It's just the anti-government protesters are fueled by the rhetoric and charismatic speeches of Khun Suthep. As ordered to rebel and fight against the government. In effect they government offices,threaten the employees, harass or attacked pro-governments, hurt them and even kill them. In spite of it, I believe she won't be like Abhisit and Suthep who ordered to shot the anti-government protesters (reds) in the past
Discussion 37 : 04/12/2013 at 12:40 AM
The man mass murdered over 3,000 people during his administration, was openly dismantling the law to make himself dictator - how many times do how many nations need to go through this before they learn to spot despotism festering in their midst and to stop it out with all expediency? Would you argue against Operation Valkyrie as "unconstitutional," or does Thailand need to get that bad before the army tries to step in (when it's basically too late anyway).
Discussion 38 : 04/12/2013 at 12:10 AM
If tomorrow Thailand holds general elections I bet Suthep gets less then 10% of the votes... End of the story!
Discussion 39 : 03/12/2013 at 11:40 PM
If Thaksin was really a friend of Thailand he would have stopped long ago .
Discussion 40 : 03/12/2013 at 10:39 PM
People's Coucil !! Wow . That a great idea to show how our Thai people so creative to setup another best system and ignor those people who voted for Thai goverment. We would love to see the best people who run politic ...Opp sorry, I just woke up from the dream
Discussion 41 : 03/12/2013 at 10:39 PM
Free TH, please teach me. What other serious cases are waiting for him? The case he was convicted for was made without his presence, so what prevent Thailand from running the other much serious cases against him?
Discussion 42 : 03/12/2013 at 10:34 PM
I used to think like this too, and thought coup would be too undemocratic and big embarrassment for Thailand, making Thailand looks so far backward. However, one needed to spend a lot of time finding out about this guy (TS) and what he did to Thailand. You will be surprised! He did fool a lot of people though. I eventually woken up and say to myself that something is wrong, badly wrong with this guy. Wouldn't Germany had rather prefer to have 'a scar' in her democracy to stop Hitler coming to power instead of saving it by allowing him to become a Chancellor?
Discussion 43 : 03/12/2013 at 10:26 PM
This looks like they have an agreement to be allowed to enter the premises for a short while. Just so there will be temporary peace.
Discussion 44 : 03/12/2013 at 10:13 PM
Who are these powerful elite?
Discussion 45 : 03/12/2013 at 10:10 PM
I only wish that the rest of the Thai people especially the poor rural people who make up the majority of the Thai population can read and write english so that they can come to this website and express their feelings and opinions about the protest as equally as privileged Bangkok residents. I am sure that the english speaking world and the nation would have had a better understanding of the true feelings of the Thai people. I guarantee that if they have better access to technology and education, you will find many pro-government supporters that strongly opposing this protest in this type of news discussion forum.
Discussion 46 : 03/12/2013 at 09:55 PM
There are plenty of possibilities with which to achieve a democratic system,even without the vote. Don't be so focused on the such a tiny part of the democratic process. In fact,as long as vote-buying/selling is the norm rather than the exception,you can't claim Thailand has any resemblance to being a democracy,without losing whatever little credibility you have left.
Discussion 47 : 03/12/2013 at 09:50 PM
You are absolutely right Khun Suthep!…This is a temporary break…The Dubai cronies will never resign….30% on a few trillion is worth all the shame in the world to them...
Discussion 48 : 03/12/2013 at 09:49 PM
The last days have seen the " sudden birth" of around 15 new pro government posters…I asked them all how much they got paid from the propaganda and disinformation services from the great fugitive but not ONE single answer….Furthermore we all noticed sometimes more than 150 likes on pro government comments HILARIOUS….There are NEVER,EVER 150 pro government ghost writers on BP….
Discussion 49 : 03/12/2013 at 09:44 PM
You keep forgetting there are several other , much more serious cases waiting for him…That is why he fled like a coward...
Discussion 50 : 03/12/2013 at 09:44 PM
Demagogue1 you might have a point IF Suthep were trying to "restore" democracy but he isn't and he isn't even pretending to do so.
Discussion 51 : 03/12/2013 at 09:36 PM
I have to admit that I was also really curious why the BK posts recently seemed to have been so askewed...the post dislikes don't reflect past history of this forum. Perhaps there has been some influential influences here.
Discussion 52 : 03/12/2013 at 09:28 PM
"Our determination is to wipe out the 'Thaksin regime' from the country." I wish to reiterate that I am no PT or Shin supporter but I really wonder how this is achieved by the "People's Council". Is everyone with the surname/family name Shinawatra supposed to be banned? What about Thaksin's cronies? What is the yardstick to measure influence? Will this really be in line with democracy? So, will Suthep be the one who appoints the "People's Council"... cos if the "People's Council" is elected by Thai citizens, what safeguards will there be that the People's Council will not comprise TS and his cronies?
Discussion 53 : 03/12/2013 at 09:28 PM
I think 'somebody' hired you to say this.
Discussion 54 : 03/12/2013 at 09:19 PM
How much would you pay for "likes" ? Seriously spoken, I don't understand why BP allows such nonsense to be posted. The government gets more sympathy, cause the alternative is frightening, that all. Most people here prefer an elected PM, even a faulty one, to a self proclaimed heroic "Secretary General" .
Discussion 55 : 03/12/2013 at 09:14 PM
yes- agreed- personally I think likes and dislikes are a waste of time as they are easily manipulated by the type of action currently being employed.
Discussion 56 : 03/12/2013 at 09:08 PM
Toxin doesn't want to stop this one because he can hide behind the reds and the corrupted police. Take the reds + and police away from him and get his ass back to Thai soil and let him have his conviction served.
Discussion 57 : 03/12/2013 at 09:04 PM
I never like the man, but since he was deposed by a totally unconstitutional and illegal coup any charges post coup are pretty much null and void anywhere else in the world. This is why other country's ignored requests by Thai authorities to stop granting him entry. I just don't understand the mentality of those who get all exercised by his conviction for a relatively minor crime (OMG he's a fugitive!), while apparently approving of the coup that ousted him. What he was convicted of pales in comparison to that crime.
Discussion 58 : 03/12/2013 at 09:00 PM
@Raimund, can you make your statement more clear please ? Are you backing the idea of a not elected "people's council" that Suthep want to put in place ? Do you agree that it is not the voters who have to decide about the country's politic but a non elected council who has to take country's decision ? The choice is as simple as that between backing or not Suthep today. It is his very clear and very undemocratic project and nobody can deny it.
Discussion 59 : 03/12/2013 at 08:35 PM
The self proclaimed "Secretary General" needs to resign.
Discussion 60 : 03/12/2013 at 08:33 PM
Toxin doesn't want to stop this, because he can suck the red shirts out for big money, take the reds away and he'll be gone in no time.
Discussion 61 : 03/12/2013 at 08:29 PM
The constitution should be amended that the PM serves for only two years.
Discussion 62 : 03/12/2013 at 08:16 PM
Looks like somebody hired some guys to click on the dislikes when the comment was against the government. Just watch this comment.
Discussion 63 : 03/12/2013 at 08:15 PM
Subcoman -With all your propaganda rhetoric aside I will answer. "Who is creating chaos and conflicts?" Suthep. Agreed. "Who is the democrat and who is the dictator?" YS is the puppet and Suthep is taking the wrong route to restore democracy. See, I can admit when the party I support is wrong. A good lesson for the PT and the UDD to adhere to as well.
Discussion 64 : 03/12/2013 at 08:06 PM
I can see that the 'SILENT MAJORITY' is getting bigger and bigger day by day. I'm surrounded daily by die-hard REDS, and they say they don't care anymore. I see when the news comes on, they don't even pay attention as they used to listen and watch all day and night on the radio and TV. The anti-government supporters are equally frustrated and are giving up their enthusiasm. Both sides are just so bored and see no light at the end of the tunnel. I feel so sorry for the many Reds, Yellows and Colorless... They have no hope for the future anymore. All colors and colorless tell me they have no power to fight the powerful elite.
Discussion 65 : 03/12/2013 at 07:56 PM
Think if all those demonstrators could use their energy to demonstrate against what happens in south Thailand, I'm sure a pressure like this to the government could actually find a solution for the meaningless killing in deep south.
Discussion 66 : 03/12/2013 at 07:56 PM
Who created the chaos 2010? Who was the paymaster of it? People will accept any outcome if the votes are not bought by PT and Thaksin. Suthep will disappear when the Shin dynasty is banned from politics for live. He lit the torch,but the demonstrators are carrying it.
Discussion 67 : 03/12/2013 at 07:55 PM
Suthep and democrats have sided with the more well off in society. As there are far more poor the democrats can never get a broad enough voter base. And if they try, their current voter base will not accept it. The democrat party is also between a rock and a hard place.
Discussion 68 : 03/12/2013 at 07:44 PM
How serious Yingluck is about to resolve political conflict in the country, one can see in her appointment of Surapong as head of CAPO and Somchai 's joining of PT. Two more of the family clan put in position. Orangina, you should start reading some international news and you can find about acid in the water.
Discussion 69 : 03/12/2013 at 07:36 PM
Both the protesters on the streets of Bangkok and the Thai government pleading for them to go home say they’re on the side of democracy, but that is not what their increasingly dangerous conflict is about. This is a fight about power, and who ought to have it. How is Thailand gonna solve it in the long run? I see no future for Thailand If they cant manage to solve it.
Discussion 70 : 03/12/2013 at 07:23 PM
This would explain why TS had to take control and bring inDeputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul. He could ill afford to have a repeat of 2010. With the blood lust of the UDD aligned tomato's TS was pertinent in his tactics today. TS might be the worst PM in history, but he knows how to play a war general.
Discussion 71 : 03/12/2013 at 07:22 PM
The protests in Bangkok are ugly, but also necessary. There cannot be any reconciliation or compromise whatsoever in Thailand until the self-serving fugitive and all his cronies are removed from any position of power or influence. Sadly, this appears to be the only way that will ever happen.
Discussion 72 : 03/12/2013 at 07:20 PM
Acid?! How odd it is that it hasn't been reported here. I'd have thought that was quite big news. Perhaps they forgot.
Discussion 73 : 03/12/2013 at 07:20 PM
Just a poignant reminded. After have formed their government in an army barack, Suthep and Abhisit waited for months of protests and chaos before accepting a new election, saying that there were massively supported by the Thais (35 %). In comparison, Yingluck has already accepted to resign and make new elections if necessary. But it his not enough for Suthep and his followers : they want a non elected "people's council" to rule the country instead of accepting voters' choices. Who is creating chaos and conflicts ? Who is the democrat and who is the dictator ?
Discussion 74 : 03/12/2013 at 07:10 PM
As a non-Thai I had no supports for the reds since they are organized in sort of insincere ways. But the big hypocrite could win the poor' hearts by use of his populist acts as the grassroots feel dumped. The problem started there and the country itself has long practices to give priority over money, power and beauty (may be Asian value) that certainly was a sign of denial to the poor. Now it' time for talks not for a total conquest. Mr. Suthep' demands are resembling 18th century' outcries which spare no breathing moments for the disagreed party and could end with unprofessional outcomes. Negotiation only is a beauty essence of democracy.
Discussion 75 : 03/12/2013 at 06:55 PM
The idea of having a forum where people's collective voice could be heard and taken seriously is a must. But the forum should not be led by person/people who are affiliated with or unofficially or officially connected to any political party. It can not seen as politically motivated.
Discussion 76 : 03/12/2013 at 06:50 PM
Just a poignant reminded. Yesterday UDD / PTP aligned police attacked unarmed protestors with acid, live rounds, rubber bullets and tear gas. # years earlier the UDD / PTP aligned protestors attacked unarmed soldiers with automatic weapons and grenade launchers. ,So it seems which ever side the UDD are on is the side causing the violence. I am just glad these protestors didn't resort to the same tactics the terrorists did in 2010. I shudder to think what the reaction would have been.
Discussion 77 : 03/12/2013 at 06:48 PM
Please, stop it!! His Majesty wants peace and unity.

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