Suthep details council goals

Anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban has for the first time spelt out what he means by his proposal for a "people's council" to run the country.

Mr Suthep wants to invoke Section 7 of the constitution, which would lead to the installation of a royally appointed prime minister.

The controversial people's council idea of the ex-Democrat MP has already taken heavy flak from the government, which has called it unconstitutional.

Addressing supporters at the government complex on Chaeng Watthana Road yesterday evening, Mr Suthep said if and when the so-called "Thaksin regime and this government are wiped out", then sovereign power will return to the people as stipulated under Section 3 of the constitution.

"Thaksin regime" is the term used by anti-government protesters to refer to the influence of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra on Thai politics.

Section 3 says sovereign power belongs to the Thai people, and the King as Head of State shall exercise such power through parliament, cabinet ministers and the courts in accordance with the provisions of the constitution.

Mr Suthep said people from all walks of life will then choose representatives from various professions to form the people's council to work out policies and draw up legislation.

The council, he added, will act as the legislative assembly to amend laws and regulations and also push national reform to change Thailand for the better.

He said the council will select "decent people" with no affiliations to political parties to be an interim prime minister and form an interim government under Section 7 of the charter.

The interim government will then put the council's national reform policy into practice such as by implementing plans to revamp the structure of the police force so they come under the people's supervision and decentralising power to provincial governors, Mr Suthep said.

When the national reform plans are carried out successfully, a general election will be called and the people's council will end its role, Mr Suthep declared.

Invocation of Section 7 had earlier been widely lambasted by critics and academics when Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva proposed invoking the section to install a royally appointed premier to end the political stalemate following the mass rallies of the People's Alliance for Democracy to oust the Thaksin Shinawatra administration in 2006.

They said such a move would obstruct and destroy democracy, causing the country to fall decades behind.

In the afternoon, Mr Suthep said the fight by anti-government protesters will carry on, despite what he called a "partial victory" at Government House and the Metropolitan Police Bureau (MPB) headquarters yesterday.

Crowds of protesters were allowed to enter both compounds unopposed after police were ordered to stand down in a bid to prevent further violence.

The protesters given access to Government House and the MPB staged a symbolic occupation for several hours and later withdrew to their camps, mainly around Democracy Monument and Ratchadamnoen Avenue.

"We can celebrate, but please do not get carried away," Mr Suthep said.

He said Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her government remain in power, and that the rallies must continue until the "Thaksin influence" is uprooted from the country.

He hopes they will return after His Majesty the King's birthday celebrations tomorrow.

In a speech broadcast late yesterday afternoon, Ms Yingluck said she believes the country can find a way out of the political crisis.

She called on all sectors and academics to participate in a "people's forum" to find a way out of the deadlock.

The prime minister said that even though the situation has not yet returned to normal, tension and confrontation have eased since the height of the violence on Sunday.

She also called on the nation to unite and join the celebrations to commemorate the King's birthday.

Supreme Commander Thanasak Patimapagorn will call a meeting of armed forces leaders after the royal ceremony marking His Majesty's birthday to discuss ways of solving the current conflict, air force chief Prajin Jantong said yesterday.

ACM Prajin called on the public and state officials to heed His Majesty's advice for them to be the main force of the land.

He believed the situation would eventually be resolved without bloodshed.

Unlike the two previous days when protesters were repelled with tear gas, high-pressure water cannon and rubber bullets, protesters yesterday were met with no resistance from police.

They were allowed to walk into the MPB and Government House unopposed following Mr Suthep's announcement on Monday night that the protesters must successfully seize the MPB the following day.

MPB chief Khamronwit Thoopkrajang ordered officers not to resist the advance of demonstrators.

The city police chief also handed over 2 million baht to the police deployed to guard Government House, and Chamai Maruchet and Orathai bridges.

Those stationed at Karn Ruan intersection and Wat Benchamabophit intersection received 1 million baht.

The officers were told the money had been given by Ms Yingluck.

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Discussion 1 : 05/12/2013 at 04:12 PM
One further point to add: in practice, this relates closely to a form of what's well-known in the US (& by extension elsewhere) as "pork-barrel" politics - in that legislators' support for even a wholly unrelated bill can be gained by granting their wish for a local benefit (or issue hobbyhorse). Not pretty - but not rare either.
Discussion 2 : 05/12/2013 at 02:25 PM
Correct in (what I take to be) implying that arrangements at this level are far more significant than handouts to individual voters. More to the point, a headman (kamnan) is often tied into the local power baron hierarchy - ensuring that a village/tambon which delivers an acceptable quota of the "right" votes will in return receive benefits from further up the ladder e.g. improved bus service, roads, school buildings etc.
Discussion 3 : 05/12/2013 at 12:55 PM
The crucial gap in bandrew's understanding is that voters take money (known as "gifts of consideration") from several candidates. That voter has just one constituency vote - so the "bad karma" mentioned must occur whichever one candidate gets that one vote.
Discussion 4 : 05/12/2013 at 06:58 AM
A good question, which I have put to many who have taken the money. The bulk of the answers I got was that it is not honest to take the money and not vote for their patron. TIT.
Discussion 5 : 05/12/2013 at 06:54 AM
Not so simple. Thaksin had already dissolved Parliament an called for a new election. He was the acting PM at the time of the coup.
Discussion 6 : 05/12/2013 at 03:16 AM
Some people are so naive to vote buying. Most of the poorer communities have a headsman, which they go to if they need money, community disputes etc. The political party will pay a handsome fee to the headsman who will in turn tell his community who to vote for. Most people in these communities believe anything that the headsman tells them and will not risk there livelihood and go against him. I rural Thailand there are 1000's of small communities with headsman so you only have to do the math.
Discussion 7 : 04/12/2013 at 08:23 PM
My understanding is that if someone takes money, they will vote for that person, bad karma if they don't. The problem with many of those that don't take money is that they may not bother voting, falling into the "my vote won't make much difference" reasoning.
Discussion 8 : 04/12/2013 at 06:35 PM
Is Suthep actually in serious danger of splitting his party? Perhaps he no longer regards the "Democrats" as his party. But any split can only strengthen Pheu Thai comparatively. Surely that is the last thing he would want to do?
Discussion 9 : 04/12/2013 at 05:29 PM
Return the power back to Taksin and be sorry for the military coup of 2007. Everything will be alright.. Its as simple as that...
Discussion 10 : 04/12/2013 at 05:11 PM
One of the few sensible people in the higher ranks of the Democrat Party has publicly stated that vote buying isn't the party's problem. Khun Alongkorn went on to say that "the problem at the last election might even have been that we [DP] paid too much." All parties pay the locals - it would be considered rude not to. But - as an earlier poster notes - it's a secret ballot, so you can take the money and still vote any way you choose. Thailand desperately needs a good opposition party. If the Dems go on fooling themselves with this mantra, they won't be that opposition.
Discussion 11 : 04/12/2013 at 04:48 PM
Wow seems a few dont understand sarcasm
Discussion 12 : 04/12/2013 at 04:39 PM
@ Lasse - they dont, you are quite correct. In my constituency PTP paid 200 and Dems 500. I am not condoning it but my wife took both then voted exactly as she would have done anyway. All voting is done in secret so she could have voted for K Chuvit for all anyone knew.
Discussion 13 : 04/12/2013 at 03:46 PM
If you were to take out human "ego" and "greed", it is achievable.
Discussion 14 : 04/12/2013 at 03:36 PM
lasse All political parties hand out money when canvassing for election . They don't know whether the people they gave money to voted for their party . People know well before an election who they are going to vote for , they are happy to receive money from every party to vote for them , but in fact vote for their originally chosen party .
Discussion 15 : 04/12/2013 at 02:38 PM
What are the laws for a Farang that has lived here for many years being able to nominate for the peoples council. We live here and it would be nice to have a voice in the future of this wonderful country.
Discussion 16 : 04/12/2013 at 02:33 PM
Nothing has been done to have Thaksin extradited either and he was convicted,please do not go down that path .Sutheap has not been convicted of anything yet.
Discussion 17 : 04/12/2013 at 12:42 PM
Who says it's for a short duration? What happens if it turns out not to be this way. Suthep's word can hardly be relied upon.
Discussion 18 : 04/12/2013 at 12:11 PM
Good point pjt....... really why even have elections in Thailand anymore. It seems once elected you just get over run and thrown out.
Discussion 19 : 04/12/2013 at 11:17 AM
The only poster who has hit the nail on the head is East-West. As he(she) stated there is no democracy in Thailand. How can there be when votes are bought and go to the party with the deepest pockets. There is much more to democracy than one man, one vote, a fact that many here do not seem to understand. It has been said that the best form of government is a benevolent dictatorship. So let Thais go find a benevolent dictator, one who is not out to line his pocket and those of his friends, if such a man exists.
Discussion 20 : 04/12/2013 at 11:08 AM
Last time I saw an election in Thailand, the voters had to vote anonymously. How is it possible for the people who buy votes, to actually control that they put their vote on the person or party they paid for? Just curious.
Discussion 21 : 04/12/2013 at 11:05 AM
same for me. Just to ask "what about the Constitution"... A Parliament elected can't change it but a former MP can do???
Discussion 22 : 04/12/2013 at 10:41 AM
Invoking Section 7 Constition is Wise idea to Balance Power in society and politicsMr.Suthep you can really achieve your goal very reasily if you not mention Thaksin Regime in your demands. it can cause divide in society those who support and Vote Phue Thai.
Discussion 23 : 04/12/2013 at 10:13 AM
How can one million people in BKK overrule 15 million electoral vote? How do we know the majority of voters want the council? What if the next one million people say we want another council? We spent hundred of millions on election but at a snap of Suthep's fingers we will get People Council selecting decent people by god knows how. The only lawful thing we have now is Suthep arrest warrant.
Discussion 24 : 04/12/2013 at 10:06 AM
The idea of a “good” or “perfect” country leader is a myth, because as soon as a leader take a decision (or do not take a decision), a part of the people disagree with (always for good reasons for the opponents). Therefore, the more suitable is a system where the leader is the less disapproved by the majority of people. In another word, the leader supported by a majority of the voters.
Discussion 25 : 04/12/2013 at 09:52 AM
In a nutshell: we can't win an election, so we're going to stop democracy. OK, got it. Then sometime soon a red shirt leader will take to the microphone and fire up that side again. This is a 'no win' situation for this great country. Something needs to be done, but this isn't it.
Discussion 26 : 04/12/2013 at 09:39 AM
Correct and democracy does not work when you pay for peoples votes. People that pay taxes should be able to vote. If you do not pay taxes, you cannot vote. Paying for votes in Esarn is not a democracy.
Discussion 27 : 04/12/2013 at 09:37 AM
Maybe this will end the division of the Thai people if Thaksin regime will be ban to run in any positions untill Thaksin will come and face the punishment that was meted on him. The Thai people will always feel betrayed if the government can not enforced the law to him or to any convicted person.
Discussion 28 : 04/12/2013 at 09:34 AM
The problem is that what he is proposing here is not new. Unless they can win over a good proportion of the Isaan people this is doomed to failure.
Discussion 29 : 04/12/2013 at 09:28 AM
Time and time again, Suthep fails to deliver on his promises shifting and extending his deadlines, threats and intimidation without compromise or diplomacy are his thing. Just look at his track record, it's appauling and to think, he once held the post of deputy PM is it any wonder things turned out the way they did in 2010.
Discussion 30 : 04/12/2013 at 09:27 AM
If you want a democratic gouvernement , then the all people should vote for it. Not by a few people who will hold hands.
Discussion 31 : 04/12/2013 at 09:27 AM
In a recent ranking of countries regarding the corruption (makes by “Transparency International”) the Thailand in the middle at an international level. Thailand is less corrupted than the other countries around. This ranking show that more a country is democratic less there is corruption. The countries where the governing power limits the freedom of speech and prevents the political change are the ones where there is most corruption.
Discussion 32 : 04/12/2013 at 09:22 AM
@Seamonster - of cos jimbly is surmising.. but I will not trust the words of a man who changes his tune according to circumstances. When he first started his rally (which I supported), it was solely about the Amnesty Bill. BUT when he saw the support he received, he then changed his tact and decided to try and overthrow the government instead... on some vague notion that PT acted unconstitutionally and to get rid of the "Thaksin regime".
Discussion 33 : 04/12/2013 at 09:17 AM
If Suthep was saying something about the army he would lose it's support!
Discussion 34 : 04/12/2013 at 09:12 AM
Replace hundred of the elected deputies by a few number of persons without experience in management of a country; give them the power to nominate a prime minister; do not forecast precisely a new election; do not give guaranty that this “interim” regime will not decide who can be candidate or not; is it really for this protesters were in the street? Is-it the best idea that “elite” of this country can produce to improve their society? Do these protestors really ask for loose their right of vote? Do they really think that “true democracy” is a system where the people have the right of vote to choice the regime?
Discussion 35 : 04/12/2013 at 09:07 AM
A royally appointed PM for the short duration of the Peoples Council, or a PM chosen by a criminal for 4 years or more ? Thailand, the choice is yours ....
Discussion 36 : 04/12/2013 at 09:02 AM
These are no details at all. Anyway I don`t understand why only fighting the Shinawats? Why not calling out a fight against corruption in general? If corruption and abuse of political power would be consequently sentenced, the Shinawats and others would probably back away from politics anyway. But that doesn`t seem to be what Suthep wants.
Discussion 37 : 04/12/2013 at 08:51 AM
Well done, Vino. Very well said.
Discussion 38 : 04/12/2013 at 08:41 AM
You are surmising….. he never said that…. he has quit politics….. long live the king
Discussion 39 : 04/12/2013 at 08:37 AM
The cunning grin showing his evil teeth will let you know what kind of a person he is. Thailand will be doomed if he can be allowed to succeed with his criminal acts by brain-washed some of those few thousand on the streets to do the crimes for him. Imagine how will the millions of Thai people live under his personal rules?
Discussion 40 : 04/12/2013 at 08:36 AM
I guess it is real difference between democracy and absoulute monarchy. Suthep and Taksin are both corrupted politicians, however Taksin has made huge economic progress and development, on the other hand Suthep wants to take Thailand 100 years back. Or what is gonna be? Modern communism, or feudalism?
Discussion 41 : 04/12/2013 at 08:36 AM
Talk about saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. I expect many of the most influential and educated people in Thailand support Suthep's effort to rid the Country of its fugitive run Government, yet they do not control and assist Suthep well enough to keep him from saying something this inappropriate and counterproductive. Doesn't Thailand have the equivalent of professional "handlers" as in the West to advise politicians what they should and should not say?
Discussion 42 : 04/12/2013 at 08:36 AM
Obviously none of you get the use of sarcasm from mphilips.Please read it carefully.
Discussion 43 : 04/12/2013 at 08:30 AM
Why is it most of the posters keep referring to Thailand's democracy when there isn't any? or Thailand is being pushed back in time of which is not advancing democracy, what democracy? and it won't work or so and so is in it for himself. Well, ladies and gentlemen here's a news flash - it sure isn't working now and hasn't been for the last 40 plus years. So maybe something new might just be the solution or is this to radical for you lot.
Discussion 44 : 04/12/2013 at 08:29 AM
Thanks, makes sense too. My guess is that Yingluck will step down after this week, Suthep will surrender and the Privy Council will come in.
Discussion 45 : 04/12/2013 at 08:26 AM
From my memory the idea of a royally appointed PM was also rejected by His Majesty. In the end Thailand has to make its democracy work and that is down to the people of Thailand to choose its MPs wisely and for its political class to generate enough viable alternatives for people to vote for. We are going to stub our toes along the way and may indeed have to protest again when government is not in the interests of the people. But we will eventually get there. There is no merit in taking away the people's right to choose and no way to avoid the hard yards of building a democracy through enfranchisement of the people
Discussion 46 : 04/12/2013 at 08:23 AM
So you are saying the majority of 66m Thai people are all unintelligent, uncivilized peasant folk and Suthep & those thugs on the streets (plus yourself) are the smart ones that should be running the country? A vote is a vote, doesn't matter it's from a stupid person or not. If they are all stupid as you said, then why those Businessmen and the so-called Elites could not convince the majority stupid Thai people to vote for Suthep and his party? Wonder who is the stupid one!
Discussion 47 : 04/12/2013 at 08:23 AM
Soooo Suthep wants to do away with Democracy then. Ok, well at least that's clear now. This man is becoming quite scary.
Discussion 48 : 04/12/2013 at 08:22 AM
I think he's being sarcastic.
Discussion 49 : 04/12/2013 at 08:18 AM
people's council, just amother attempt to get the cards stacked in the elites favour, so they can rule as before. sorry mr suthep but your gang have been rejected because after decades of their elitest rule the majority of thais were kept living in the utmost poverty and destutition with no attempt to improve their lot and now just will not accept losing their right to choose a government that is answerable to them via the ballot box and so may actually begin to improve their standard of living.
Discussion 50 : 04/12/2013 at 08:18 AM
Well done, you have called a spade a spade and it is disparaging that the two posters here under wish to spin and twist your meaning to paint you as a racist. Having been associated and living in many rural areas of Thailand since I married in 1971, I have found that the only change over the last 40 plus years is that people such as Thaksin pay more. The majority of the rural peasants looked for the payday then and still are.
Discussion 51 : 04/12/2013 at 08:13 AM
Of course Suthep will be one of the "decent" people chosen to govern. LOL
Discussion 52 : 04/12/2013 at 08:03 AM
Go ahead, reform all you want. It won't make any difference while the country is plagued by corruption. To the man on the street, nothing changes. Only two things in of note in 15 years.: The 30 baht scheme (Thaksin) and pensions for the elderly (Abhisit). All other reforms get crushed by vested interests or corrupted all the way down the line. As for the cops ...pffft.
Discussion 53 : 04/12/2013 at 08:01 AM
The military is already under the Government's supervision and sort of independent of politics (though I am sure a red brethren will claim otherwise).
Discussion 54 : 04/12/2013 at 08:00 AM
Many posters would have you believe that people from Issan deserve special treatment. I think the Issan focus is simply because people in the South tend to support the democrats. According to red gospel southerners produce nothing and rely on the magnificence of Issan providers. I think however the whole red shirt deal can be explained in one term-" franchise business"-. The red shirt movement is a business with little franchises in each red village. It is a modern version of fiefdom. It's a franchise with royalties wrapped in cultism complete with Grand Poobahs. secret handshakes, idolatry and the works.
Discussion 55 : 04/12/2013 at 07:59 AM
But in a Parliamentary system the Parliament can be dissolved at any time, there is no rule requiring a government to serve its term. And as Democracy is theoretically of the people, by the people, for the people, then the people have the right to demand the Parliament be dissolved if they feel it no longer serves the people's needs and the country's needs. This "wait four years" is part of the Republican system used by the USA.
Discussion 56 : 04/12/2013 at 07:55 AM
Not sure what the appropriate title for this chapter is: Arrested Developement or Back to the Future?
Discussion 57 : 04/12/2013 at 07:48 AM
One can write a thesis about how Suthep's proposal will fail miserably. The main problems.. "people from all walks of life will then choose representatives from various professions.." So, reps are chosen by Thai people? Through GE? How does this solve the "Thaksin regime" problem? Is it not possible that TS/Shin/cronies control the council? Assuming the council is totally divided, how does it appoint an interim PM? etc. "Royally appointed PM" Assuming PT controls 70% of the parliament and senate and a Democrat is appointed as PM, can he seriously be an effective PM? Isn't this against the will of the Thai people? Is this democratic?
Discussion 58 : 04/12/2013 at 07:46 AM
General Secretary Suthept has achieved some flower giving and a tour of Police HQ and it's a "Victory"? government still there last time I looked
Discussion 59 : 04/12/2013 at 07:44 AM
Suthep should give his idea to the DP to submit in Parliment for debate and vote then let the CC rule if it is constitutional just like everyone else has to.
Discussion 60 : 04/12/2013 at 07:39 AM
Suthep's first arrest warrant was royally endorsed,then nothing happened.his second arrest warrant stated he could get life in prison,or the death penalty.still nothing happened.maybe he will just be crowned the winner.
Discussion 61 : 04/12/2013 at 07:36 AM
Suthep,I thing is very wrong to break the rule of law it unconstitutional.
Discussion 62 : 04/12/2013 at 07:33 AM
Suthep's contempt for the common man cannot be masked by his big smile in the accompanying photo. The man will do anything to prevent democracy from continuing in Thailand. Any system that disenfranchises the people is wrong, wrong, wrong. The people of Thailand have been blessed by having a system in place that gives even the poorest man a voice in government and now Suthep wants to silence the majority - so sad for so many.
Discussion 63 : 04/12/2013 at 07:32 AM
unintelligent,uncivilised,peasant,thats the way forward,degrading the very 1s that grow and supply your foods,,and keep the country going,even on low wages,,these people are human,they have rights,sounds like you don't want there imput,,your 2 inches lower than a snake,how dare you degrade them like that
Discussion 64 : 04/12/2013 at 07:30 AM
Naa... I am doubtful about this People Council idea. It might turn out to make it easier for TS regime in some way, including for their propaganda, making the Upper House looks unstable. Are we (the people) ahead of TS, or are we behind? Wouldn't it be easier to expand other existing political parties, encouraging bright and honest people to come to politics? There may not be the best option, but there may be a least evil option.
Discussion 65 : 04/12/2013 at 07:29 AM
What do you mean unintelligent, uncivilised peasant folk ? How dare you to critize the most important Thai citizen whom they form the base foundation of Thailand. Most of your so called middle-class and upper-class Bangkokian are the children of these hard working folk. Shame on you
Discussion 66 : 04/12/2013 at 07:12 AM
They have already rewritten the constitution once with the express aim of curbing/eliminating Thaksin's power-bases. They failed then and are likely to fail again unless they get to the core of it. That is that Thaksin's parties are the only ones in Thailand's history to begin to address the country's gross social and regional inequalities. They may do so crudely and out of self-interest but nonetheless that is real nature of what is derided as Thaksin's "populism".
Discussion 67 : 04/12/2013 at 07:08 AM
Yes, although it would still involve elections. Each electorate area votes on an individual, not a political party, so all candidates cannot be directly affiliated to one. Once each area has there representative, they then decide in parliament, via votes who will become interim PM. The only way to remove these is by the electorate of his/her area voting for no confidence. Whilst under an interim government an education program set up in all area's of Thailand to teach the fundamentals of a democracy and the harm that voter rigging/buying causes.
Discussion 68 : 04/12/2013 at 07:06 AM
"Secretary General Suthep" as he now calls himself has many good historical models to choose from in his "people's government". First to mind are Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot.
Discussion 69 : 04/12/2013 at 07:04 AM
Money in itself is not enough to satisfy this crook. He also needs power. "What do all men with power want? More power." (Source: The matrix)
Discussion 70 : 04/12/2013 at 06:47 AM
Any other suggestions apart from another immediate election?
Discussion 71 : 04/12/2013 at 06:41 AM
It's well known among large swathes of middle- and upper-class Bangkok that Thaksin's huge support base is made up of unintelligent, uncivilised peasant folk. Suthep has been quite clear on this matter, as have all of his friends. So, while large numbers of the population may feel they have already chosen, repeatedly, who they want to represent them, they are too stupid to understand that they are wrong. The 'decent' thing to do then is choose someone for them. It may seem that those chosen are the exact same people who ignored and disparaged and exploited these people for decades, and they did, but can't they see it was for their own good?
Discussion 72 : 04/12/2013 at 06:41 AM
from the outside he sounds like a raving lunatic with an absurd suggestion, but from a closer study of Thai politics, parliament and governance circa 2013, it starts to make sense. Thailand becomes the case-book study of democracy superimposed on the third world with rather regrettable outcomes.
Discussion 73 : 04/12/2013 at 06:39 AM
What do MOST Thai really want ? Not the few thousands or even if so much, some hundreds of thousands versus many millions ? Now a referendum, with multiple well introduced and explained subjects to vote on, including desired fixed and limited future government actions with simple mile stones, checks and balances.
Discussion 74 : 04/12/2013 at 06:32 AM
I think the giving of money to law enforcement just for doing the job they are already paid to do was wrong and sets a type of precedence to "tip" people for doing what they were hired to do. Enough of this, covertly, is already going on and should not be encouraged further.
Discussion 75 : 04/12/2013 at 06:25 AM
'The interim government will then put the council's national reform policy into practice such as by implementing plans to revamp the structure of the police force so they come under the people's supervision...' And the military ?
Discussion 76 : 04/12/2013 at 06:24 AM
Suthep is corrupted just llike every one else.... he blames others but he is the one. No one is perfect and every one makes order for the country to move forward, all sides have to work together. Attacking each other just makes things worse and the people are the ones who suffer, not the game players (politicians). Wake up thai people....don't be brainwashed and fooled by Suthep. If he has a good intention to fix the problems, he should sit down and work with the government. If he can't convince the government, wait and run for PM the next election. He can't just demand and steal the power from the officially elected government.
Discussion 77 : 04/12/2013 at 06:21 AM
Thought I would say something intelligent, but the people ahead of me already said it all.
Discussion 78 : 04/12/2013 at 06:16 AM
Thailand already has a royally appointed Prime Minister. Under "the democratic regime of government", the Prime Minister is appointed by the King on the recommendation of Parliament,
Discussion 79 : 04/12/2013 at 06:14 AM
Any plan to move forward is going to have weaknesses and problems. But, the one thing that holds out some hope for Suthep's suggestion, is the possibility of breaking the strangle hold some individuals, families and established parties have on the democratic system. As always, the devil is in the details and it may very well be worth developing those details for an objective look at the proposal. A government need not be labeled or meet any requirements other than it works for the majority of the people and all have a voice through representation.
Discussion 80 : 04/12/2013 at 06:10 AM
What a great idea Mr Thaugsuban,take Thailand back to the age of pre-Victorian U.K. when the U.K. Monarch still had some power to intervene in the Parliamentary process.Exactly how does this advance "democracy" in 2013?I also notice there is no mention of " implementing plans to revamp the structure of the ARMY so they come under the people's supervision" The Thaksin regime is indeed a perverted,corrupt bunch of sycophants but this is who the Thai people have voted for and they are getting what they deserve.
Discussion 81 : 04/12/2013 at 06:03 AM
Lets say suthep got what he wants for christmas. 6 months time the red will come to bkk with more violence. It never gonna end. Stop while u can, wait for 2 yrs.
Discussion 82 : 04/12/2013 at 05:59 AM
It's just one man's greed causing everyone to suffer. Billions of dollars not enough to satisfy his greed. 'A man got to know his limitation' (source:Magnum Force).
Discussion 83 : 04/12/2013 at 05:27 AM
Peoples Council, hmm...nice idea but it would depend on who the council is made up from and how truly representative it is of all walks of Thai life. Unfortunately these things are usually stacked to represent someone's agenda. I don't see much difference between this and the current system, who nominates the candidates, will all sides accept the result or will someone spit the dummy and take their protest to the streets again?
Discussion 84 : 04/12/2013 at 05:23 AM
Somebody needs to re-write the constitution.

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